Why isn't housing priced higher? (why is housing random luck)

[Celef]

And they also know that won't be enough considering the tone of players trying to get a house cause they don't have one and those buying just to resell

[Drkdays]

Part of the appeal of housing is it's lack of constant availability and they are working on it with several methods. Adding more plots and returning unused houses. That's enough for now. If you really want a house and you have Gil to burn you can make a pf asking for someone willing to sell. That's fundamentally and morally different then someone seeking to sell. It changes from "I'm out to make a profit" to "I'm out to make someone a profit and get something in return."

[Seraphix2407]

fine, in that case, why should someone who does not have a house pay the same sub that someone who does ? If we can't all have access to the same content because some of it is "exclusive" we should get a discount on the sub. A)

My bad, I shouldn't have used the word exlusive, but everyone do have access to get a house. The way you say things, sounds like 90% of the crafters should pay less sub too, because many can't afford being 3 star crafter.

[Celef]

My bad, I shouldn't have used the word exlusive, but everyone do have access to get a house. The way you say things, sounds like 90% of the crafters should pay less sub too, because many can't afford being 3 star crafter.

There is a difference. Everyone can get 3 stars at so point in the game through hard work, time and effort, SE did not say "ok guys, we only have 100 players able to unlock the 3 stars then, we lock everything"
If 10 players want a house but SE just add 6, 4 players won't have one because not enought plots, that's a fact, it has nothing to do with crafters who don't have the time / patience / wish to get to 3 stars

[Kabzy]

There is a difference. Everyone can get 3 stars at so point in the game through hard work, time and effort, SE did not say "ok guys, we only have 100 players able to unlock the 3 stars then, we lock everything"
If 10 players want a house but SE just add 6, 4 players won't have one because not enought plots, that's a fact, it has nothing to do with crafters who don't have the time / patience / wish to get to 3 stars

To be fair though, there's always someone willing to sell their plot for the right price. One could argue that you (and your FC) could put in some of that hard work, time and effort to get yourselves a plot. Yeah you'll be paying extra, but that doesn't mean to say it's a feature that is unavailable to you. It's not completely fair on the buyer, but at the same time it's also not fair to say that you're being completely excluded from housing. Put in the work, get those millions, and start looking for people willing to sell.

[Celef]

And, just for curiosity, how much do you sell your plot.....? considering the prices we saw before (100M for a small plot just to leave it, then add the price of the plot....)

[Seraphix2407]

There is a difference. Everyone can get 3 stars at so point in the game through hard work, time and effort

Everyone can get 3 star, but let's be honest, are there many people who buy 220 gear much as they did back when 3.2 was out? Highly doubt it. If you want a fc house, you guys start crafting, doing things together and buy one. If it's for your own use, you know what you have to do. My fc worked hard for our fc house and we was the second large on server when they first realeased the housing. Crafting, gathering etc helped us a long way. Lot's of cool people in fc also donated their own money as well. I was giving u the crafter example because many people can't get things they want even when they pay a full sub too. You said earlier you ''want to pay less sub'' because housing isn't avaible for you, which it is. All what matter is how hard you try.

[Kabzy]

And, just for curiosity, how much do you sell your plot.....? considering the prices we saw before (100M for a small plot just to leave it, then add the price of the plot....)

Okay, that's a slight exaggeration. I'm on the same server as you and for a very long time small plots were going for 10-15 mil. I haven't checked recently, as I already have a house, but I know of people who have recently purchased plots, and they didn't spend more than 20 mil. Now if you take that price, it's still less than what a medium would cost, and the size of the plot doesn't greatly impact the features available to an FC.

From personal experience, I can say that making up to 20 million is not very difficult if you craft alone. So if you have an entire FC saving up, you should get there in no time.

Edit: A few years ago, available housing plots on some servers would start at hundreds of millions, with small plots being around the 50 mil mark. Consider now everyone has a tonne more gil, and they're only asking for 4 mil for a small plot, there isn't much to complain about gil wise.

Edit: And just in case you were specifically asking me, I paid 28 mil for my medium plot, so if I was to sell it, I would be happy with just that.

[Celef]

Everyone can get 3 star, but let's be honest, are there many people who buy 220 gear much as they did back when 3.2 was out? Highly doubt it.

I agree with you, but they "could" and that the big difference. The problem here is that SE do not add enough plots for everyone,

Same example as before you want a 220 gear ? if you have the money and see this as interesting for you, you can buy it or farm it if there is no offer on MB.
You have the 4M needed to get a plot at 3.3 but so do the all server and there is only 4 new shards so ?
Even if you want and gils speaking can, you might not be abble to get one, no matter how hard you and your FC members worked (cause yeah, we work hard to get those gils) and that's the probleme, not the players, not the amount of gils needed BUT the amount of plots available.

[Seraphix2407]

I agree with you, but they "could" and that the big difference.

Well what I meant was the 3 star stuff got outdated pretty fast, when I talked about the 220 gear. That's the whole reason why people wanted 3 star to begin with, many wanted that and do it but I know most and I talk over 80% playerbase can't afford it or didn't pull enough effort to get one. My friend had 2 mil like 1 week ago, has 14 mil now, all they been doing is gathering and selling materia and want's to buy a medium house. Doesn't mean they have to pay less sub because they couldn't do it when it was at it's peak time.

Many people want's alot of stuff, but a big % of the playerbase can't get or afford. That's how it is, in any game actually. Some games require skills to obtain what you want, some games like this you require skill/time/gil to get what you want. The house is avaible for you much as its avaible for everyone else. It's up to each person how much they want it, if they clearly been ''farming'' for months but still can't afford one, means they simply didn't want it enough. People who have gil ready should be avaible to get a house in the next patch, many of them atleast, and I talk about filling up the plots each server gets. I get there are more people who do want one but cant get it and there are reasons for that, like you said not enough plots, then it's about having enough gil. I do agree there should been more plots, but my policy is if you want one so badly you should have put enough effort to get one earlier or now if you really want one. If you want a fc house and some people in your fc cant be on, what you do is put the gil in the fc chest and make it avaible for people who leads in it to buy it when you can. I got my houses early and that's because I worked hard for it. Keep in mind I bought my own personal house last year and there was over 50-100 plots still avaible on my server, around that time it was about gil than having enough plots. However many can't afford and want's one.

What I truely wish they could do is add more items on the housing. 200 is a low number for a large house.