Am I reading this right about Raid Finder?

[Mug]

This is the weirdest complaint i have read on the forums. Having to go to a specific place to zone into a raid is an inconvenience and nothing more than that really.

I would agree with you if it took a long time to get places in this game, but with the teleport system, even the most remote locations in this game only take a few minutes to get to. Also, only the party leader needs to talk to the NPC, the rest just needs to be in the zone.

I come from FFXI, and I enjoyed the journeys on foot together with my party. It was part of what made that game so magical. I understand it's a different world now, but I would love to retain at least a little bit of that magic. An alternative would be if they made more relevant open world content for parties. Something like the Diadem, but a bit more thought-out.

[DarkmoonVael]

I would agree with you if it took a long time to get places in this game, but with the teleport system, even the most remote locations in this game only take a few minutes to get to. Also, only the party leader needs to talk to the NPC, the rest just needs to be in the zone.

I come from FFXI, and I enjoyed the journeys on foot together with my party. It was part of what made that game so magical. I understand it's a different world now, but I would love to retain at least a little bit of that magic. An alternative would be if they made more relevant open world content for parties. Something like the Diadem, but a bit more thought-out.

Ok and about those times nodes and timed fishes for gathering?

Convenience is about someone going to gather from them and being able to zone into the raid from where they are.

[bass9020]

Ok and about those times nodes and timed fishes for gathering?

Convenience is about someone going to gather from them and being able to zone into the raid from where they are.

Usually when its raid time everyone should be there and ready to go. If you have someone late every single raid time then you have an issue with someone who should really learn time management skills. Or if you NEED to get that gathering node its kind of being rude to others by making them wait.

[DarkmoonVael]

Usually when its raid time everyone should be there and ready to go. If you have someone late every single raid time then you have an issue with someone who should really learn time management skills. Or if you NEED to get that gathering node its kind of being rude to others by making them wait.

I like the way you are trying to majorly deflect from the actual debate.

convenience
kənˈviːnɪəns/
noun
1.
the state of being able to proceed with something without difficulty.
"services should be run to suit the convenience of customers, not of staff"
synonyms: benefit, use, good, comfort, ease, enjoyment, satisfaction

Now please explain why you feel the need for everyone to actually have to zone into and through several in game areas to get to a raid boss, when these people think it would be more convienient for them to directly zone in through DF or the new raid finder?

[bass9020]

I like the way you are trying to majorly deflect from the actual debate.

convenience
kənˈviːnɪəns/
noun
1.
the state of being able to proceed with something without difficulty.
"services should be run to suit the convenience of customers, not of staff"
synonyms: benefit, use, good, comfort, ease, enjoyment, satisfaction

Now please explain why you feel the need for everyone to actually have to zone into and through several in game areas to get to a raid boss, when these people think it would be more convienient for them to directly zone in through DF or the new raid finder?

My point is everything in this game already gives convenience for everything, why is going to a specific spot for raiding or a dungeon a bad thing? Yes our open world is nothing special but that doesn't mean it can't be. People need to stop asking for everything to be done at the click of a button. DF is convenient but it makes the world a hub or lobby game just as Madolyn has said. This game deserves more than to be just a lobby/hub game.

[ElHeggunte]

Are we really trying to glorify the absolutely riveting experience of standing around at the raid entrance for 20 minutes waiting for everyone to show up? If you care that much you can just sit on your hands in front of the raid entrance for half an hour before you queue and it'll be the same exact time-wasting experience. If you want it to be truly realistic, add another 20+ minutes to simulate late people, afkers, and replacing no-shows. Now that's what I call excitement!

And considering that the Raid Finder pulls from the entire data center anyway I dunno how else you expect it to function.