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  1. #1
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    Please bring back "Equipment Favors", abolish Equipment Requirements for craftables

    Seriously.

    I was wanting to wear my Cobalt plate armor with my Lancer, because I am NOT a fan of the current high-level scale mail. The level/class requirement is a big eff-you to the player that wants to be able to wear items as vanity equipment as opposed to actual functional gear. I mean, as a Lv50 LNC, I can't wear Red Cobalt Gauntlets and Sabatons to match my Limsan Soldier's Overcoat, because of the class requirement. The result is that I have to wear crappy, old Dated Iron armor in the meantime. >:|

    Yoshi-P, please abolish class requirements for non-unique player-crafted equipment, especially armor. I do not like the idea of armor being another "identifying factor" of classes, like they are in FFXI. I very much liked the ability to mix and match my armor, regardless of which class it favored, to my aesthetic tastes prior to these changes.

    P.S. I looked through the data for the new equipment that allows LNC to equip, and I noticed something VERY glaring...No Lv49 or Lv50 armor that favors LNC! It's all 47 or under...(and they don't look as good as the plate armor, either) WHAT THE HELL, YOSHI-P. YOU GOT SOMETHING AGAINST LANCER OR SOMETHING!??!
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    Last edited by SilvertearRen; 10-05-2011 at 05:22 PM.

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    I like required armor, gives you something to work towards. Doesn't really matter anyways since you can level up so quickly now. I got from 45-47 in 3 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadRiser View Post
    I like required armor, gives you something to work towards. Doesn't really matter anyways since you can level up so quickly now. I got from 45-47 in 3 hours.
    You're missing the point. As a roleplayer, I want to be able to fully customize my character appropriately. Here's an example: Yda, the character you encounter in the Gridania storyline arc, is a Pugilist and she's wearing a pair of plate sabatons.

    Because of these class requirements, we can't diversify our looks like that anymore, and that makes Feral a sad kitty. A very, very sad kitty.

    In fact, this is likely going to be the one reason why I will never dispose of my Dated equipment, because that equipment allows me to wear it anytime, with any class I choose, of my own making. Much to the chagrin of the designers of the new recipes, I'm sure.

    Yoshi-P has lost 100 points of respect!
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    Last edited by SilvertearRen; 10-05-2011 at 05:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilvertearRen View Post
    Seriously.

    I was wanting to wear my Cobalt plate armor with my Lancer, because I am NOT a fan of the current high-level scale mail. The level/class requirement is a big eff-you to the player that wants to be able to wear items as vanity equipment as opposed to actual functional gear. I mean, as a Lv50 LNC, I can't wear Red Cobalt Gauntlets and Sabatons to match my Limsan Soldier's Overcoat, because of the class requirement. The result is that I have to wear crappy, old Dated Iron armor in the meantime. >:|

    Yoshi-P, please abolish class requirements for non-unique player-crafted equipment, especially armor. I do not like the idea of armor being another "identifying factor" of classes, like they are in FFXI. I very much liked the ability to mix and match my armor, regardless of which class it favored, to my aesthetic tastes prior to these changes.

    P.S. I looked through the data for the new equipment that allows LNC to equip, and I noticed something VERY glaring...No Lv49 or Lv50 armor that favors LNC! It's all 47 or under...(and they don't look as good as the plate armor, either) WHAT THE HELL, YOSHI-P. YOU GOT SOMETHING AGAINST LANCER OR SOMETHING!??!
    Welcome to MMO's.
    People where asking for these sort of restrictions from the beginning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    Welcome to MMO's.
    People where asking for these sort of restrictions from the beginning.
    They're not very sandbox-minded, are they? I prefer to be able to dictate how I present my character, instead of being forced every inch of the way, to conform to a particular standard.

    Honestly, after realizing this, I am starting to wish they'd at least left Tanaka in charge of the aspect involving equipment, because then we wouldn't have equipment requirements, but rather equipment that favors a particular level and class.

    What also annoys me is that I wrote a backstory for Feral that places her history at Ishgard, a city where they have dragoons, wielding lances, in f*cking PLATE ARMOR. And because of the new requirements, I can't be allowed to dress the same!? Why are there still NPCs that flout these rules?

    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF......

    Yes, I am very angry right now...
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    Last edited by SilvertearRen; 10-05-2011 at 05:41 PM.

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    Nothing wrong with having something to look forward to. Honestly having too many optimal rank style equip kinda makes some equipment...useless? Pre 1.19, why wear anything between Bronze Haubergeron and Bronze Cuirass? Even though you werent the proper level for Cuirass, it effectively killed anything between the two because it still gave you high defense/bonuses from other equip wasnt useful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teknoman View Post
    Nothing wrong with having something to look forward to. Honestly having too many optimal rank style equip kinda makes some equipment...useless? Pre 1.19, why wear anything between Bronze Haubergeron and Bronze Cuirass? Even though you werent the proper level for Cuirass, it effectively killed anything between the two because it still gave you high defense/bonuses from other equip wasnt useful.
    You're missing the point. I like mixing and matching. I don't mind the level requirement, but the class requirement just segregates the equipment unnecessarily and that is what f*cking pisses me off.

    What if I had a Lv50 Lancer/Archer pair of boots that I liked, but want to pair them with Lv50 Gladiator/Marauder armor? With the current new system, that is virtually impossible - that is what pisses me off. OK?

    I don't need to keep pointing that out. I do not want an armor/equipment system that is increasingly becoming a FFXI clone. The old armory equipment system had qualities that really that set Final Fantasy XIV apart from its predecessor.
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    Last edited by SilvertearRen; 10-05-2011 at 05:50 PM.

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    I'd prefer required class/level on all gear myself so the more items that lean towards that the happier I get, but hey thats just me.

    Heavy plate for mrd and gla, scale/chainmail for lnc and mrd, heavy leather for pgl etc, some should overlap between classes as they do now and in the whole picture down the line im sure it all balances out for which classes got more unique gear they can wear.

    As others have pointed out having items to strife for with levels or even a whole other class is one of the charm of MMOs and best part in XIV you can just level any class on the same character as opposed to say WoW where you need a completely new alt for that class and its gear.

    If you play this game mainly for character looks I'd suggest a modelveiwer or similar ; p
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    Yes please. And I thought they were vigorously telling us there would be Optimal Equipment along side Requires Equipment. WHERE ARE THOSE?
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    *sigh* They complain because everyone looks the same.

    SE adds class-specific gear.

    People complain because they can't wear whatever they like.

    You will never be happy.
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