Lifting restrictions that are placed because of "lore"

[Belhi]

As far as mounts go I think the only two times Im aware of them refering to mounts they changed their minds on was a Red 13 mount (FF7) and cloud's bike. The Red 13 mount they felt wouldn't be a good callout to the earlier FF game because Red 13 was supposed to be an almost extinct species and having heaps of versions of him running around wouldn't work. As for the bike, they felt it didn't fit the current themes of FF14 and felt too out of place plus it felt really slow for a bike going at normal mount speed.

As for glamour I'm of too minds. On the one hand I don't really see how opening things up would really hurt. On the other hand I kind of cant help but feel it would have a negative impact on the aesthetic sense to the game. It would erode the sense of 'this is what a spellcaster looks like' or 'this is what a rogue/ninja looks like', etc. Can you imagine a NIN in some of those really heavy plate sets? I would also add that its only low level DoM gear that can actually be glamoured by DoW. Anything 50 or above is DoM only.

[Yuraq]

Can you imagine a NIN in some of those really heavy plate sets?.

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...sas_Junius.png

[Yasuhiro]

As far as mounts go I think the only two times Im aware of them refering to mounts they changed their minds on was a Red 13 mount (FF7) and cloud's bike. The Red 13 mount they felt wouldn't be a good callout to the earlier FF game because Red 13 was supposed to be an almost extinct species and having heaps of versions .

Never knew Red XIII was a planned mount. It wouldn't feel right riding on his back anyway, kinda feels wrong thinking about it, Midgardsomr is fine he's a big dragon who willingfully lets you, but not Red feels a bit disrespectful to him.

[Cinno]

The Red 13 mount they felt wouldn't be a good callout to the earlier FF game because Red 13 was supposed to be an almost extinct species and having heaps of versions of him running around wouldn't work.

That argument no longer fits though. We have mounts like the OP mentioned, Midgarsormr.. In the story there is only ONE Midgarsormr. He's an actual character with an identity. But you can have ten characters riding midgarsormr's around, right next to each other.. Maybe even next to a character on foot that has the little Midgarsormr minion flying behind them in tow. This mount itself breaks that rule, and i'm sure theres many many others..

As for glamour I'm of too minds. On the one hand I don't really see how opening things up would really hurt. On the other hand I kind of cant help but feel it would have a negative impact on the aesthetic sense to the game. It would erode the sense of 'this is what a spellcaster looks like' or 'this is what a rogue/ninja looks like', etc. Can you imagine a NIN in some of those really heavy plate sets? I would also add that its only low level DoM gear that can actually be glamoured by DoW. Anything 50 or above is DoM only.

I kindof see what you mean with this.. As much as i feel like we should be free to glam ourselves however we want, I do agree that some things should be off limits.. But there's -tons- of generic stuff in the game that is restricted for no reason.. I dont think some of the more plain robes should be restricted simply to casters. Just like i dont think some of the plain tunics should be restricted to just DoW classes. I see absolutely no problem with a paladin or a monk running around in robes (again, the plain ones.. not the ones with magical items dangling all over them :P) and i also see no problem with mages going around wearing tunics and looking like a traveler. I mean if you were a mage and you had to go do business in Little Ala Mhigo or Camp Drybone... Would you really want to go on this trip while wearing a large thick heavy (sometimes fur lined) robe?

[LadyVal]

That argument no longer fits though. We have mounts like the OP mentioned, Midgarsormr.. In the story there is only ONE Midgarsormr. He's an actual character with an identity. But you can have ten characters riding midgarsormr's around, right next to each other.. Maybe even next to a character on foot that has the little Midgarsormr minion flying behind them in tow. This mount itself breaks that rule, and i'm sure theres many many others..

Pretty sure Mids is a spiritual manifestation since A) he literally grows to an adult right in front of you just so you can ride him and B) his corpse is still wrapped around the airship in the lake. Plus, only our characters seem to even know he exists. For all we know, we all just have a tiny piece of his soul following us around in various forms.

Nitpicking aside, I personally think only the racial and artifact gear should stay locked, and the glamour requirements otherwise should be lifted. I can see the issue with a mage actually equipping a tank body, but to make their robe /look/ like a tank body, I see no issue with.

[Niwashi]

The Red 13 mount they felt wouldn't be a good callout to the earlier FF game because Red 13 was supposed to be an almost extinct species and having heaps of versions of him running around wouldn't work.

Well, his species could be nearly extinct on Gaia but still plentiful on Hydaelyn. I'd think the bigger problem is that it's an intelligent sentient species, so using one as a mount would be slavery.

[PArcher]

Well, his species could be nearly extinct on Gaia but still plentiful on Hydaelyn. I'd think the bigger problem is that it's an intelligent sentient species, so using one as a mount would be slavery.

There was an argument a while back about Middy, and how it was "cruel" or "unjust" to force the Father of Dragons to wear a saddle and bridle.

The issue with that argument? He chose to wear those for your comfort riding him (just as he chooses to allow you to ride him at all).

Nothing says another intelligent mount can't do the same.


EDIT: And everyone forgets that Kirin is an intelligent mount, allowing you to ride him after proving your worth collecting the element-infused Nightmares (but not an actual Nightmare...)

[Felis]

Nothing says another intelligent mount can't do the same.

Can female Au Ra get Kain from FF IV as a mount?