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    Player JackFross's Avatar
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    Eve Malqir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I should also mention that I use a controller. The hotbar setup does not allow me to see all CDs, and when a lot is going on all at once, especially when solo healing, it is VERY easy to miss a CD. I will tell a SCH that manual control is the most effective way to use our fairies, but I will never tell a SCH to keep their fairies on OR off obey.
    This goes for anyone who's playing on controller:
    This is not a valid excuse for missing buffs.

    See the following (my SCH setup):

    Extended bars:

    Tapping R1/RB cycles this and the first:


    My summon macros swap hotbars and junk to set the Eos or Selene skills on my bars based on who I summon. Embrace macro is:
    /micon "Embrace" pet selene
    /macroerror off
    /pac "Embrace" <t>
    /pac "Embrace" <tt>
    /pac "Embrace" <me>

    (I have one for each Fairy because I'm a loser don't judge me;;; )

    Also have my Whispering Dawn macro that shows up when I have Eos out:
    /micon "Whispering Dawn" pet
    /ac "Rouse"
    /pac "Whispering Dawn"



    I personally advocate Obey 100% of the time under all circumstances. Every fairy skill can be queued up while you're casting spells. You don't need to pause anything at all to activate them. Yes, training yourself to watch Fey Wind is hard, but that doesn't mean you should just give up and use Sic because it's easier/"just as good" - especially in a raid environment. When fighting bosses, Fey Wind will go off on cooldown, which is almost never the proper timing. It'll activate when adds spawn in A7S, for instance! What's the point of that?


    Also - some tips I personally have for SCH. Can't be arsed to read the whole thread, so I'm gonna hope this stuff hasn't been covered.

    1. Establish early on whether you're the main healer or the off-healer. If you're the former, don't be afraid to use Eos pre-54. When you get Indomitability (and, later on, Emergency Tactics), you won't need Eos anymore for raid heals. Indom is lovely, ET>Succor is quite powerful.
    2. Use your kit. Don't be afraid to push buttons.
    -- Deployment Tactics is amazing if you use it properly (ie: don't spread Eye for an Eye on the pull against a boss who only uses magic attacks and doesn't even use any raid damage in the first 30s...). Generally, this means NOT wasting it on the pull. Succor is good enough for early mitigation. You wanna save DT>Adlo for more serious situations.
    -- Emergency Tactics is a godsend. ET>Succor can make or break a run if you heal properly while the other healer has their thumb up their ass and heals 3-5s too slow (as usually happens).
    -- Indomitability is a fantastic use of stacks (if you haven't already used them all on Energy Drain) to quickly heal back from raid damage. It's only on a 30s timer, too, so it's pretty much on-demand as needed.
    -- Sacred Soil in current content is approximately as potent as an Adloquium that didn't crit when used for proper situations. That's nothing to sneeze at. Don't be afraid to drop it.
    -- Adloquium is a life saver - you shouldn't bench it just because Physick is cheaper. Adlo > Physick is a safer, more effective way to heal a tank at low health.
    -- Dissipation is not a no-no button! It's your OH SHIT button! It drastically improves your heals AND gives you 3 free Lustrates for that awkward moment when you burned your last stack at 30s on AF's cd and you NEED a Lustrate or Indom right now.
    -- THE FAIRY is a very powerful healer. In dungeons, you should only ever have to heal if your DPS are standing in bad or when the tank pulls more than a single group of mobs. Don't discount how powerful it is and be sure to study that through your own testing before you rely on her, naturally.

    Uh... I'm really tired so I forget the rest.

    Last point: dump Stoneskin from your cross-class. It's worthless for SCH to pack.
    Cleric Stance > Aero > Protect > Swiftcast > Blizz II in that order.
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    Eyl'ah Sahea
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    Thanks for the responses, guys!
    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    don't be afraid to use Eos pre-54
    I don't understand this bit.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    I recommend doing challenging solo content to practice.
    What kind of solo practice do you recommend?
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    Last edited by tENAxc; 05-19-2016 at 05:42 PM. Reason: squishing all questions into one post

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    Quote Originally Posted by tENAxc View Post
    What kind of solo practice do you recommend?
    Sorry I wasn't a little more clear. Challenging solo content can be just about anything you can do solo that pushes you a bit. For instance when I got to level 42, I tried to clear my entire hunting log, and ended up in Mor Dhona long before I was even supposed to be there (I think quests there start at 47). This might not be challenging for you though, but it pushed me. As SCH, I have literally taken on around 5-6 mobs of the same level or slightly higher all at once without feeling any real danger. Tried to do that as WHM and ended up in the dirt.

    I just hit 50 and haven't done much content that surrounds it as I started my crafting classes and have been focused on those while farming poetics from Beast Tribe quests. Those quests can be a little challenging especially if you leave your chocobo stabled. I did rely on taking things of higher level, but now that I am still swimming in older content, there is nothing higher than 50, and my current average iLv is 105, which blows just about everything away. So I gimp myself by wearing iLv 50 versions of my AF in FATEs and the like. I do know about soloing dungeons unsynced, and I think some B marks can be soloed at 50.

    So I am discovering along with anyone else at this point their first time through the game. Hope that helps though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    Last point: dump Stoneskin from your cross-class. It's worthless for SCH to pack.
    Cleric Stance > Aero > Protect > Swiftcast > Blizz II in that order.
    That's the only thing I don't completely agree with. In places that weakness padding is needed, extra tank mitigation like green orbs from a6s or prepull in 4 man dungeons it's amazing. (Just to list a few uses) Comparative to blizzard II that competes with miasma II (as far as crowd control, both aren't the best in this aspect lol) and 4 or more targets are needed to outweigh broil, with a heavier mp cost. I really do commend SCH that use it effectively, even if only for novelty aoe. xD.
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    Last edited by Rawrz; 05-19-2016 at 10:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    snip
    Why do you have aetherflow on three different spots?

    Just curious.

    Also not sure I agree with completely ditching stoneskin, as I use it a lot pre-pull in dungeons. But dungeons aren't that important anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post

    Also not sure I agree with completely ditching stoneskin, as I use it a lot pre-pull in dungeons. But dungeons aren't that important anyway.
    Honestly, I don't use stone skin as a scholar that much, adloqium is good enough for me, its to the point I switched stone skin with cure just to start making people confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powe View Post
    Honestly, I don't use stone skin as a scholar that much, adloqium is good enough for me, its to the point I switched stone skin with cure just to start making people confused.
    Yeah, it's certainly not an important skill, but it does let you dps a little longer in dungeons so that's the main reason I have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackFross View Post
    This goes for anyone who's playing on controller:
    This is not a valid excuse for missing buffs.

    See the following (my SCH setup):
    You my friend, are godsend! Not being able to constantly monitor CD's was not only my strongest argument towards using Sic, but also my biggest frustration playing FFXIV. I had no idea the UI could be set up this way and I can't wait to log in and reconfigure my settings. Previously, I figured the only to constantly monitor CDs is with a mouse+keyboard set up. Ugh, I feel like such a dingbat for not knowing about this

    FTR, I wouldn't leave Selene on Sic because I'm lazy, or just gave up. I just wanted to be a more effective SCH and was missing a lot of CDs, and it was frustrating. So I compensated as much as possible by toggling Sic/Obey. You have saved thousands upon thousands of button presses in the upcoming days, and made my job a whole helluva lot easier! Thank you so much
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