Tips for SCH? :)

[FoxyAreku]

Quick question on sch that regurlarly down A5S

Since my whm mostly solo heal the fight I tend to highly DPS and help only during protection phase
Is it possible to use stoneskin on the prey and only that ?
In order to stay in cleric as much as possible...
(Even if the cast is longer for me)

Yeah, but considering you can just do a succor before prey even comes out and that will be enough (if the prey target goes the proper distance away), it's not worth the hassle.

[JackFross]

I don't understand this bit.

Eos affords much more benefit to AoE healing than Selene does. Fey Illumination massively buffs your Succor, and Rouse>Whispering Dawn is the single most potent AoE heal in the game besides Cure III, especially when buffed by Fey Illumination. It can really help if you're struggling at surving/recovering from raid AoE.
At level 54, you learn Indomitability, an instant-cast 400 potency heal, which makes it a lot easier.

That's the only thing I don't completely agree with.

It's not novelty AoE. It's significantly more powerful than Broil in the majority of dungeon pulls. It's a drastic gain to pps and dps to pack Blizzard II with you. Stoneskin is /never/ necessary to be on a Scholar. If you need additional weakness padding, just give that person an Adlo before the big damage spike. If you're deploying Adlo, it's already enough for them to survive, especially if it's crit or buffed by one or more of Defiance/Convalescence/Fey Illumination.

Why do you have aetherflow on three different spots?
Also not sure I agree with completely ditching stoneskin, as I use it a lot pre-pull in dungeons. But dungeons aren't that important anyway.

Those two horizontal bars are just buff trackers. I never click anything on them - the only buttons I use are the ones on the x-hotbar. I have 2 things for Aetherflow and then one on my main thing because I suck at tracking the AF cooldown, so it helps me not fail and miss it.
As far as SS pre-pull in dungeons - Adloquium has a shorter cast and a stronger effect in all situations. My i215 SCH can drop Adlos that are stronger than Stoneskin on a near i240 PLD. Completely worthless cross-class, imho, at least on Scholar.

Yeah, it's certainly not an important skill, but it does let you dps a little longer in dungeons so that's the main reason I have it.

I mean. As a Scholar, you only need 1 pre-pull GCD for Shadowflare followed by 4 other GCDs (B2>M>B1>[Bane]>M2) to be performing well enough in any trash pull. After that, I generally will Lustrate>Adlo the tank before going into Broil or B2 spam. Stoneskin wouldn't extend that margin by a reasonable enough amount to make me not need to drop cleric for an Adlo in a larger pull (I never drop in 3-4 mob pulls). It's a discrete difference - not a fluid one. More health is nice, but doesn't realistically change an encounter. I will never let my tank fall below 3k either way unless I get distracted, so it's really not changing anything, especially when 1 Stoneskin is quite literally 2 attacks from mobs - and in a mob pull of 6-7, that comes in three-fold every 3 seconds. :0

[Neallys]

Hi !

Quick question as well, i'm about to start raiding in savage, and i'm a bit unsure about materias.
What kind of materia should i aim for? I've read some say i need to cap my accuracy and then go crit, some say go full crit, and others say go crit/deter.
I'm tempted to go for Acc/Crit, but that will leave me with very little crit... So yeah a bit unsure.

What's your take on this ? ^^

[FoxyAreku]

Hi !

Quick question as well, i'm about to start raiding in savage, and i'm a bit unsure about materias.
What kind of materia should i aim for? I've read some say i need to cap my accuracy and then go crit, some say go full crit, and others say go crit/deter.
I'm tempted to go for Acc/Crit, but that will leave me with very little crit... So yeah a bit unsure.

What's your take on this ? ^^

I took a picture of my setup for you. With Relic weapon (you want this if you value crit even if it is a grind), lore head body belt and ring. The bracelet is from A5S, the rest is crafted or prototype.

With the food I have highlighted and these stats I've got more than enough crit and accuracy for the majority of savage. I'd show you my melds but it's really just Accuracy Vs and IVs in everything with some crit overmelded here and there. If I was able to run savage more and get more midan pieces I would easily have 1000 crit and still have enough accuracy with melds.

Scholar may as well be labeled as a dps for all of A5S and the majority of A6S simply because there is so little to heal in those fights outside of very specific moments, so you want to have accuracy to ease the frustration of it.

Hope this helps.

[Llynd]

Acc ofc ^^. Well if you use crit gear, you can reach 1k crit and still cap your acc.
Tbh, det is not worth it anymore, do not annoy yourself with it.

[Neallys]

Ok, a big tank you guys

[Zadocfish]

Alright, this thread has helped me a lot! I think I might stick to WHM until I get more used to high-level healing, then come back to SCH after I get better.

Everyone, thanks for the tips.

[Nekotee]

Alright, this thread has helped me a lot! I think I might stick to WHM until I get more used to high-level healing, then come back to SCH after I get better.

Everyone, thanks for the tips.

I would highly not recommend this since scholar and whm work in a complete different way.

If you want to play SCH you have to force yourself to find your path and tempo
Working with the fairy and being able to manage her efficiently to allow her to heal while you do something else (dpsing, raising, shielding)

Whm is the most boring healer where you simply heal the damage done and basicly do nothing else (beside throwing DPS and HoT)

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@FoxyAreku
I'm surprised you didn't go for the crafted torso which has massive crit
And that you can add 27 crit and 18 acc (cheap meld)
To reach 97 crit and 110 piety (18 acc bonus)

[Zadocfish]

I would highly not recommend this since scholar and whm work in a complete different way.

If you want to play SCH you have to force yourself to find your path and tempo
Working with the fairy and being able to manage her efficiently to allow her to heal while you do something else (dpsing, raising, shielding)

Whm is the most boring healer where you simply heal the damage done and basicly do nothing else (beside throwing DPS and HoT)

That's kind of why I don't feel like it's the class for me right now. What that means is that as a SCH, you're always pressing around twice as many buttons as a WHM. More effective and flexible, perhaps, but I just don't find that kind of coordination and intensity FUN...

[FoxyAreku]

@FoxyAreku
I'm surprised you didn't go for the crafted torso which has massive crit
And that you can add 27 crit and 18 acc (cheap meld)
To reach 97 crit and 110 piety (18 acc bonus)

Yeah, that's a good option. I guess I just wanted to use lore for the extra mind and vitality.

So few of the lore pieces are worth anything as a scholar player I wasn't even sure what to buy tbh.