Black Mage Sanctuary - A Guide to DPS

[LetBloodline]

I'm still testing the alternate rotation with B3-F3 instead of F1 and it's giving me better DPS than standard one even if i didn't get down to PPS math

(this is not opener so you should already be in UI3)
r1: F3-eno-F4x3-B3-maybe wait mana tik but straingly not so often - F3 - F4x3 (or less if didn't get mana tik) - B3 - t1 (with low spell speed need swiftcast or skip t1) - B4
r2: F3-F4x3-B3-maybe wait mana tik - F3 - F4x3 (or less if didn't get mana tik, go on until eno fall off) - B3 - t1

After R2 i can start again with R1 with no need for 3th rotation

No need to worry about pie, if you have LL and enough SS you can fire off 4x F4

I really think this is the best non opener rotation as well the one that get more value off SS without requiring any pie investment. At very least is the one better performing for me on parser

[ShinryuReishiki]

Doing some quick napkin math, the standard rotation seems to come out with slightly higher potency per second even with 0 Fire III procs. As you add procs and/or increase Spell Speed, though, the standard rotation pulls ahead more.

I tried your rotation on the A8S SSS dummy a few runs, and it seemed consistently on par with an unlucky run using the standard rotation. My best run with it was about 20s remaining, while my best with the standard rotation (and considerable luck) is about 33s remaining.

[JackFross]

Numbers below the cut.

For the sake of comparison, I'm going to assume 0 procs in either rotation. For cast times, I'll use my own Spell Speed (1043). I'm also cutting out Thunder casts, because it's a DPS loss to use Thunder 1 while getting 0 procs.

First up:
F3 in UI3 = 240x70% = 168 - 2.24s
F4 in AF3 = 280x200% = 560 - 2.68s
F1 in AF3 = 180x200% = 360 - 2.24s
B3 in AF3 = 240x70% = 168 - 2.24s
B4 in UI3 = 280x100% = 280 - 2.68s

Rotations:
With 0 Fire III procs, the standard rotation looks like:
[UI3] > F3 > F4x2 > F1 > F4x2 > B3 > B4

F3 = 1 - 168 @2.24s
F4 = 4 - 2240 @10.72s
F1 = 1 - 360 @2.24s
B3 = 1 - 168 @2.24s
B4 = 1 - 280 @2.68s
Totals - 3216 @ 20.12s = 159.84 pps


Yours is (assuming optimal conditions):
[UI3] > F3 > F4x3 > B3 > F3 > F4x3 > B3 > B4 > F3 > F4x3 > B3 > F3 > F4x3 > B3

F3 - 4 - 672 @8.96s
F4 - 12 - 6720 @32.16s
F1 - 0 - 0 @ 0s
B3 - 4 - 672 @8.96s
B4 - 1 - 280 @2.68s
Totals - 8344 @ 52.76s = 158.15 pps

That modified rotation in its optimal situation is approximately even with the standard rotation in its least optimal situation. A single Fire 3 proc added to the standard rotation turns it into a drastic gain overall. The only reason you'd be seeing gains with that rotation is if you're getting lots of lucky F4 crits or if you're performing the standard rotation sub-optimally.

[StouterTaru]

Numbers

AF3 is an 80% boost to Fire damage, not a 100%; your multiplier should be 1.8, not 2.0

[SunnyHirose]

Funnily enough, this appeared on Reddit:

https://np.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...n_methodology/

I've not had chance to go through it and evaluate it though. Maybe it will be useful

I did end up spending a lot of my posting-time for the past couple days in responses to that thread, of course in minutes I get a downvote and someone telling me that I'm posting "gibberish" ヽ( ﾟヮ・)ノ

(please do not up/downvote based off your reading this post, that's against site rules; just, uh, wanted to vent and if you want more pontification on SS weighting it's there now....)

[Garotte14]

Hmm, thanks so much for the feedback and information guys! The piety theory-craft for blm seems limitless... I should let you guys get back to the stat weight discussion before we segue too deeply. one last quick question, how much piety do you go for if you want the guaranteed t1 (in the situation where you are not getting the opportunity do that t1).

The problem occurs when you get a server tick right before you cast B4 > Fire III. This results in starting your next rotation 884 MP short. Which means at the end of your next rotation, you'll end with 575 MP which isn't enough to cast T1. 284 Piety is the magic number for always being able to cast T1 at the end of your rotation. 310 is the number for an extra Fire IV, but I don't think that's needed personally. If you don't raid and really just do dungeon runs, then having enough MP to do 4 Fire IIs is fine, but I do not at all recommend putting all 35 bonus points into pie if you're a raider.

[Waliel]

Norm: 144.05 PPS 20.52s
6xF4: 140.84 PPS 28.23s

That is what I came up with with my 930 or whatever SS I had when I calculated it few pages back, F3 to B4. And that's only if you don't have to wait for mana during B3 F3.

[MiniTyra]

Does anyone have the absolute, bare minimum Rear/Caster accuracy of A8S with some sort of proof?

Dervy and Judge_Xero have a good hunch on exactly how Flank/Rear/Front requirements are calculated.

[Garotte14]

Does anyone have the absolute, bare minimum Rear/Caster accuracy of A8S with some sort of proof?

Dervy and Judge_Xero have a good hunch on exactly how Flank/Rear/Front requirements are calculated.

I'm not 100% sure as far as exact proof goes, but most are reporting no misses 594.

[OneWingedSora]

Does anyone have the absolute, bare minimum Rear/Caster accuracy of A8S with some sort of proof?

Dervy and Judge_Xero have a good hunch on exactly how Flank/Rear/Front requirements are calculated.

Can confirm 0 misses at 593. From both me, and multiple casters/healers I know with clears ~