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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Are you forgetting that server transfers cost real money? Asking people to spend $18 (not to mention all but 1million of their gil), for a chance at finding open housing is utterly ridiculous.
    You can buy items to sell on the new server, keeping your gil. And if housing is so important, why not server transfer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonikku13 View Post
    You can buy items to sell on the new server, keeping your gil. And if housing is so important, why not server transfer?
    Are you hearing yourself right now? You're actually suggesting that people spend their own real money to server hop on the chance that there could be open plots available. This is not even close to a viable suggestion. Even if you were 100% guaranteed to get plot when you transferred servers, the idea of needing to spend more real life money to get a feature that should already be available is ludicrous.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Are you hearing yourself right now? You're actually suggesting that people spend their own real money to server hop on the chance that there could be open plots available. This is not even close to a viable suggestion. Even if you were 100% guaranteed to get plot when you transferred servers, the idea of needing to spend more real life money to get a feature that should already be available is ludicrous.
    Now, assuming you're not a legacy player, you spend $15 a month on sub for this game. What's another one-time fee of $18 to get open plots? If you play for a year, that's only a 9% outlay.

    There's a ton of open plots on Mateus, it's just whether you're interested in paying $18 to get a plot now or hoping Square Enix doesn't jack up the price of housing.

    I want neighbors... so come to Mateus. :P
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    Cut-up servers are probably a big problem anyway, but that's a harder and more complex fix. They can DEFINITELY pull off instanced housing. As mentioned previously, Wildstar provides, for free (in a now F2P game) instanced housing which is superior to FFXIV's in almost ever way. Range of experiences on it, the item count, the ways you can position those items, the flexibility of those items, the list goes on. SquareEnix is absolutely capable of doing this and I am perfectly happy to pay for it, with real money if it's worth it.

    At present, their biggest hangup is their reliance on the ward system (and given the option, many would prefer instanced). It will take some work, but Square needs to do it. It's always a bad idea to make your own success a bludgeon to new incoming players. That's why jacking up the price and being strict about availability isn't a good solution; the people that affects most are the people you're trying to attract to grow the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viddion View Post
    If they increase the prices to the point where they reflect today's gil inflation, add a bunch of wards, and add an equal amount of isghard wards in a few patches then even on Balmung which is most likely the hardest server to get a house on
    Okay first, the majority of servers, have no housing. Hyperion has not had housing since a few months ... maybe 6 after "personal" housing was released which was when? Late 2013; early 2014?! LOL Also, you're right. Jacking up prices for a ONE time gil dump is not the answer.

    For one, and I mentioned this in another thread about increasing the price, not EVERYONE has over a 100 million in gil or more. I have a decent amount that would afford me the chance to purchase a medium house but, if SE decides the best way to kill 2 birds with one stone is a massive gil dump, there will be a lot of players who will NOT be happy. Main reason? And people seem to forget this. After the failure of 1.0 this game changed from being a very hardcore group of former XI players to a "game we want to make for everyone." SE's words. Not mine. They made it more "casual" based. Well guess what? Casuals, who also want houses, don't HAVE that type of time to sink into crafting and gathering. At least not to the extent where I see players with over 500 mil in gil THEMSELVES! You also have players as was mentioned earlier in this post, who have more than 2,3,4 or even 5 houses! WTF?! WHY?! I know one player on Hyperion who literally posted on these forums a few months back, she's working on getting all 9 types of house! C'mon now! SE needs to fix THAT issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonikku13 View Post
    Now, assuming you're not a legacy player, you spend $15 a month on sub for this game. What's another one-time fee of $18 to get open plots? If you play for a year, that's only a 9% outlay.

    There's a ton of open plots on Mateus, it's just whether you're interested in paying $18 to get a plot now or hoping Square Enix doesn't jack up the price of housing.

    I want neighbors... so come to Mateus. :P
    Ummm ... you seem to forget that while spending 18 bucks is no big deal, to a degree, that server AKA World, is not in my time zone! LOL Sooo ... I spend 18$ to transfer. Lose 39 mil of gil I have busted my rear for to now be on a low pop server for a stinking house and now have NO ONE in my time zone to play with? Sorry. That's not how this issue gets resolved. It's not.
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    Can i just ask why its so important you'll NEED a house? they're working on it. They already said so we get more wards + instanced housings.
    And not to be a dick. But i'm sure 9/10 people will not look at their house a month or two after they purchase it.

    I agree there is a problem but some people seem to think this is Sims A Realm Reborn.
    yes a house is fine, but it won't break your gameplay if you lack one.

    There are plenty of ways to get a house, espescially as a FC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    Ummm ... you seem to forget that while spending 18 bucks is no big deal, to a degree, that server AKA World, is not in my time zone! LOL Sooo ... I spend 18$ to transfer. Lose 39 mil of gil I have busted my rear for to now be on a low pop server for a stinking house and now have NO ONE in my time zone to play with? Sorry. That's not how this issue gets resolved. It's not.
    I'm sure there are equivalent EU and JP worlds with housing available. All it takes to check is to make a level 1 alt and scout The Goblet.
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  8. #38
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    I'm not sure if it was stated, but I believe the apartment housing is instanced housing. At least that's the way it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crc0427 View Post
    I'm not sure if it was stated, but I believe the apartment housing is instanced housing. At least that's the way it seems.
    Seems to me it's more of a personal FC room for people without FCs.

    Though, I'm hopeful it'll be a tad bigger than a room. But we'll see. :B
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ignacius View Post
    Cut-up servers are probably a big problem anyway, but that's a harder and more complex fix. They can DEFINITELY pull off instanced housing. As mentioned previously, Wildstar provides, for free (in a now F2P game) instanced housing which is superior to FFXIV's in almost ever way. Range of experiences on it, the item count, the ways you can position those items, the flexibility of those items, the list goes on. SquareEnix is absolutely capable of doing this and I am perfectly happy to pay for it, with real money if it's worth it.
    And the rest of Wildstar is barren and basically devoid of content. Their housing system is basically the ONLY draw that game has because the rest of the game is absolutely terrible.

    The apartment system the dev team is implementing is basically instanced housing so I don't know why everyone is bitching about that anyway. A vast majority of the playerbase has said that "Moghouses" from FFXI would satisfy them. Well, that's what the apartments are. So I don't get how this doesn't solve the complaint to begin with. If your complaint is "well we don't get yards" - then too bad? I've always been of the opinion that the housing plots in the wards should have remained Free Company exclusive and that personal housing should have either been done instanced through an apartment system or through FC Private Chambers. Them opening the housing wards to private buyers is what has caused such a massive crunch on the housing market each time they expand it. If it'd stayed FCs only, then there'd be open houses and people wouldn't be abusing their system. (Which I admit is rather poorly put together.)
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