This is getting silly, just create instanced housing already...

[Erim-Nelhah]

Some of the points I've seen in this thread:

• "Other MMOs have unlimited instanced housing, why can't FFXIV?"
  • I don't work at SQEX so I don't know for sure, but I've heard that FFXIV's servers use a data saving model that cannot easily support this. Changing the data saving model is non-trivial. Even if it doesn't require a complete server rewrite (yes, that's a very real possibility) changing it affects every part of the servers. At best, this is going to take a lot of time to do and test properly. At worst, it will it will require a complete server rewrite. Either way, that's a lot of time and money that could be spent elsewhere, so in order to get SQEX to spend the time/money to improve housing it has to be proven (to them) that spending the money to improve housing would make them more money (over a time period that they've set) than spending said time/money elsewhere.
• Apartments will fix the issue.
  • No, they won't. Not only are apartments apparently going to be limited in quantity, but based on the info we have now they also don't come with a Yard, which is currently an absolute requirement for real gardening. Flower pots aren't a replacement for actual gardens, they're only a nice addition to the game.

Now, that said, while I do hope that SQEX can see fit to implement unlimited instanced housing, that's something of a long-term solution even if they do decide to do it. In the meantime, they can and should implement a way to securely trade plots between players and FCs (probably similar to a market board for housing). While this wouldn't eliminate the problem that there isn't enough housing, it would at least limit or remove peoples' ability to scam players by taking their money and not demolishing the house or transferring the FC.

And before someone says it: No, FFXIV isn't a real-estate simulator. That still won't stop people from flipping houses on the 7th, nor will it stop people from wanting to sell their house rather than just abandoning it when they hop servers, or wanting to buy a house down the road, or whatever.

--Erim

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Do people really play a game just for housing? That's so weird. I've never even noticed housing as a thing before this game and it struck me more as odd that'd be a feature than anything.

[Youkulm]

Do people really play a game just for housing? That's so weird. I've never even noticed housing as a thing before this game and it struck me more as odd that'd be a feature than anything.

Housing is end game for a lot of crafters and gatherers.

I don't raid..

Crafting & gathering is what I enjoy in the game. Making gil. I want a house lol.

Also housing is a necessity for FCs ( airships ). SE screwed the pooch when they added personal housing.

[Pablomaldito]

I'm happy to report that 6 years in the future, SE has finally listened to the players' concerns and fixed the supply issue.

j/k

[dspguy]

Is there anything that comes from gardening that is not obtainable in some other way (like the MB?).

On my server, which is one of the higher population servers, there are still plenty of apartments available. And that is housing. Maybe it is 90% of housing (no gardening, no exterior). But it is there.

[MistyMew]

Keep the current system for those that value it, make it cost whatever fixed price you want, keep wards and just plop the house down on it, and charge a few extra dollars for the storage if it's hurting you. However, after seeing the 3.3 patch on housing, you're missing the problem. FFXIV's housing is a liability with half a dozen games now having far better and accessible housing systems. It's something most people play FFXIV in spite of or in ignorance of. Not 'because of', and that's a problem.

You need instanced housing. It opens up a LOT more options, and it will not only keep people occupied, but flower a whole other portion of the economy. I don't blame SE for wanting their housing to do something different, but it's definitely not doing it and it's costing them in appeal.

The point is, instanced housing scales with population and pays dividends. The current system is something I have to talk around to recruit new players to the game.

Agreed.
They are YEARS overdue...tacky af.

[Avoidy]

lol
lmfao

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Is there anything that comes from gardening that is not obtainable in some other way (like the MB?).

On my server, which is one of the higher population servers, there are still plenty of apartments available. And that is housing. Maybe it is 90% of housing (no gardening, no exterior). But it is there.

Gardening results can be purchased on the market board... IF someone is selling them. The problem with garden exclusives is that if the people who can grow and list them don't... then the people who can't, cannot obtain them.

At the very least, SE needs to add an indoor garden box that has multiple slots so apartment owners can crossbreed in their apartments. Even if its only 2-4 slots, it would at least give apartment owners the agency to get these thing through their own efforts instead of having to rely on others and spending gil (sometimes significant amounts).

[Oizen]

Do people really play a game just for housing? That's so weird. I've never even noticed housing as a thing before this game and it struck me more as odd that'd be a feature than anything.

Stop giving out outdoor furniture items as event rewards if you don't want me to want a house.

[Shibi]

Why are you guys talking to people who posted 8 years ago?