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    They aren't doing this Colab at the cost of a third dungeon and its probably payed for with additional funs to cover marketing. Plus technically we are getting 3 dungeons this patch. Its just one of them is non traditional (deep dungeon).
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    I think Square Enix will eventually run out of pvp modes that start with the letter S >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    They aren't doing this Colab at the cost of a third dungeon and its probably payed for with additional funs to cover marketing. Plus technically we are getting 3 dungeons this patch. Its just one of them is non traditional (deep dungeon).
    Ya honestly, Deep Dungeons is what takes the place of the time it took to produce everything for the Gold Saucer. If you think of the time frame of things, SE last year spent time producing Minigame content over battle content, this time however battle content is being produced rather than Minigame content and the result is Deep Dungeons.
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    Anyone that thinks the collab is the reason why don't have a 3rd dungeon in this patch is delusional. Modeling 13 weapons and minions plus a mount don't (and I HOPE it doesn't) use as much resources as designing a dungeon or a raid, plus 3.3 is getting 2 dungeon-esque content anyway, there's your cut 3rd dungeon right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airget View Post
    Ya honestly, Deep Dungeons is what takes the place of the time it took to produce everything for the Gold Saucer. If you think of the time frame of things, SE last year spent time producing Minigame content over battle content, this time however battle content is being produced rather than Minigame content and the result is Deep Dungeons.
    Except that the people who make instanced content aren't the same people that make the minigames. Many wouldn't even neccesarily have the same skill set. Likewise the people making quests lines and weapon and minion models won't be the same constructing the landscapes and fight encounters. Not all content needs the same set of skills to make.

    Yoshi P said that they took people off the dungeons to make Diadem and new types of content. Considering the skills required to make something like the Deep dungeon I suspect it is most likely that the people who made Diadem would be most likely to share the skillset required to make something like the Deep dungeon.
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    I suspect that the new trial may be part of the PSO2 collaboration?

    I mean PSO2 recently got Odin.. (Youtube it..)

    Maybe Profound Darkness or one of the Dark Falz.

    Although I suppose if it was a collab, they would have been more vocal about it and advertised it a bit heavier, so it will probably just be Nidhogg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Anyone that thinks the collab is the reason why don't have a 3rd dungeon in this patch is delusional. Modeling 13 weapons and minions plus a mount don't (and I HOPE it doesn't) use as much resources as designing a dungeon or a raid, plus 3.3 is getting 2 dungeon-esque content anyway, there's your cut 3rd dungeon right there.
    They've attested that mount animations take quite a bit of time, which is why they set back fenfirs flying instead of at the same time with tortoise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    Anyone that thinks the collab is the reason why don't have a 3rd dungeon in this patch is delusional. Modeling 13 weapons and minions plus a mount don't (and I HOPE it doesn't) use as much resources as designing a dungeon or a raid, plus 3.3 is getting 2 dungeon-esque content anyway, there's your cut 3rd dungeon right there.
    If this is a comment about mine. I never said THE reason. However resourses being dumped into things like that would be A reason. Yoshi has made comments multiple times alluding to strained resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiceisNice View Post
    They've attested that mount animations take quite a bit of time, which is why they set back fenfirs flying instead of at the same time with tortoise.
    Besides that, there is usually more to events than just the modeling design of the weapons and minions and mounts.
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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    I'll give you that for the mount since it is a new one with new animations like you said, but I stated previously, you don't have animators working on texture work, battle design and so on, which is what some people mistakenly believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altena View Post
    I suspect that the new trial may be part of the PSO2 collaboration?

    I mean PSO2 recently got Odin.. (Youtube it..)

    Maybe Profound Darkness or one of the Dark Falz.

    Although I suppose if it was a collab, they would have been more vocal about it and advertised it a bit heavier, so it will probably just be Nidhogg.
    It would be cool if they did make it a collab considering what you said about PSO2..but as you also said it probably would've been advertised more--just like Yokai watch. Anyone else notice that the majority of the Live Letter was them talking about Yokai?
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