What are your thoughts about the Letter from the Producer LIVE Part XXIX?

[Lunaxia]

Let's see...

> ESTINIEN please don't be killed
> Another dragon-themed dungeon
> More Hildibrand
> Moogles
> DRAGONS
> More Mhachi lore
> New treasure map options

There's a lot I'm happy about in this one, looking forward to it!

[RoseOfTheRaven]

> ESTINIEN please don't be killed
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I absolutely agree we should be able to save Estinien. I mean yeah he was a d-bag 90% of the storyline up until the very end when he started showing he cared.

He actually seemed nice once we defeated Thordan! Then BAM he gets taken over by Nidhogg.

Plus theres the fact that hes the DRG trainer lol and it just would not fit for him to up and die.

[Lambdafish]

I absolutely agree we should be able to save Estinien.

And make aphinaud happy? No! Matoya said the kid needs to learn sacrifice, and I agree, kid needs to learn

[RoseOfTheRaven]

And make aphinaud happy? No! Matoya said the kid needs to learn sacrifice, and I agree, kid needs to learn

Very true, but he did start to learn it with Minfillia and all. He definitely is way too much of a crybaby for my tastes. He needs to man-up a LOT before I will like him as a character.

[Lambdafish]

Very true, but he did start to learn it with Minfillia and all. He definitely is way too much of a crybaby for my tastes. He needs to man-up a LOT before I will like him as a character.

"you need to learn sacrifice" "yeah maybe, I will try to learn to grow as a person" "I won't let Estinian die, no matter the problems it causes us" *me and matoya simultaneously facepalm*

[Lunaxia]

"you need to learn sacrifice" "yeah maybe, I will try to learn to grow as a person" "I won't let Estinian die, no matter the problems it causes us" *me and matoya simultaneously facepalm*

I'm sorry, but how is vowing to save his friend from being killed/ controlled by Nidhogg after watching his comrades suffer and a dear friend die indicative of lack of growth as a person?

The point of that scene with Matoya and the one at the end of the MSQ isn't to highlight his immaturity, it's to show Alphinaud taking matters into his own hands and challenging the boring, parroted narrative of "sacrifice/ suffering is inevitable!!" by doing what he can to save Estinien no matter how impossible it may seem. He has no delusions about it being an easy task. What's childish about not giving up on a friend?

Also, Alphinaud is 16, and has already grown up a lot since we were introduced to him. He shows more self-awareness about relying on the WoL than the rest of the adult cast put together.

[Lambdafish]

I'm sorry, but how is vowing to save his friend from being killed/ controlled by Nidhogg after watching his comrades suffer and a dear friend die indicative of lack of growth as a person?

It was half a joke, and half a worry that Aphinaud would choose to forsake Ishgard in order to save Estinian, and that the devs would allow Aphinaud to be in the right. Matoya reminds him of the facts, we are at war, and war has casualties, I don't have a problem with him trying to save a friend, it's about him ignoring Matoya's direction about the nature of war, and his denial about the eventuality that Estinian will have to be struck down.

Also, I don't mind that he is 16 and making mistakes, it's how soon after Matoya says her bit that he turns around and acts like the conversation never happened that makes him come across as whiny and arrogant.

(also I agree that Aphinaud has come a long way in his growth, and I actually have started to like him as a character, that could be why this scene bugs me so much)