question how far is to far

[Savagelf]

i happy like armor that ffxiv dev team use for end game my self and now the thread look better after put those post picture on ignore. I didn't not ask you post picture you in your swim suit i ask you not to. I find quite boring seen player run around in most revealing armor they find. there dime a dozen of those players it much more fun to enjoy they work of dev in creative and detail they put in for both end game armor as well job gear. i like the dragoon armor.

[Eul]

i happy like armor that ffxiv dev team use for end game my self and now the thread look better after put those post picture on ignore. I didn't not ask you post picture you in your swim suit i ask you not to. I find quite boring seen player run around in most revealing armor they find. there dime a dozen of those players it much more fun to enjoy they work of dev in creative and detail they put in for both end game armor as well job gear. i like the dragoon armor.

To be honest I'm bored with caster/healer gear that always about curtain robes and pointy hats. I appreciate with the eikon gear for caster because it's first gear that not about curtain robes. It needs more variety not just something from female converted to males. I always ended up glamour those.

[Savagelf]

if you don't realize it that armor match the culture that dark ages in Europe. it amazing the detail they went to make the buildings and armor match that like culture which what isengarde is base off

[AlphaFox]

Head pieces like rabbit ears, I say let it us all wear em. The bunny bustier, I say no to that. Things that are specifically designed for women should stay gender locked and vice versa but items like gloves and head pieces, let us have em and vice versa.

[Theodric]

We're already at the point of 'too far' as far as I'm concerned. A troubling amount of gear and hairstyles are designed to fit female characters first and foremost. This means that when it comes to fitting male characters a lot of those same hairstyles and gear pieces end up being very, very adrogynous or feminine.

There are countless options for that sort of style already. Yet it isn't enough - because the vocal, selfish portion of the community gunning for such things kicks, screams and threatens until they get what it is that they want.

...which is more of that sort of thing.

I mean, really. If we're going to have 'sexy' gear for men why does it need to be exactly the same as for female characters? Why can't the equivalent for the 'Bunny Suit' be something that shows off a male character's muscles in a way that is conventionally attractive?

I'd much prefer that than simply getting the female version.

[Ashkendor]

i happy like armor that ffxiv dev team use for end game my self and now the thread look better after put those post picture on ignore. I didn't not ask you post picture you in your swim suit i ask you not to. I find quite boring seen player run around in most revealing armor they find. there dime a dozen of those players it much more fun to enjoy they work of dev in creative and detail they put in for both end game armor as well job gear. i like the dragoon armor.

The funny part is I don't run around in that. I had to go dig it out of my armoire, actually. Every one of my classes has a distinct look to it. Some of them are "standard" and fit the mold (tank gear, for example, is High Allagan) while others are a little more unique (like my healer gear). The thing is, if I did want to glamour myself into a bikini, who are you to tell me not to? Do you think I like seeing a billion catgirls running around in bikinis? Not particularly, but it's their choice and I just sort of shrug and ignore it. The fact of the matter is that you rolled out this thread talking like you speak for the majority of players when you really don't speak for anyone but yourself when it comes to what you do and don't want unlocked to both genders. Lucky for us, SE is in charge of those decisions and you're just another whiner that thinks her opinion is a lot more popular than it really is.

if you don't realize it that armor match the culture that dark ages in Europe. it amazing the detail they went to make the buildings and armor match that like culture which what isengarde is base off

Er, wrong fandom there, chief. Pretty sure it's not called Isengarde in any language. >_>

Head pieces like rabbit ears, I say let it us all wear em. The bunny bustier, I say no to that. Things that are specifically designed for women should stay gender locked and vice versa but items like gloves and head pieces, let us have em and vice versa.

I don't see any reason men couldn't get the bunny bustier, albeit altered to be more fitting to the male figure. If you want to make this argument, then girls should not have gotten the Thavnairian vest since the bra had to be added for them.

I mean, really. If we're going to have 'sexy' gear for men why does it need to be exactly the same as for female characters? Why can't the equivalent for the 'Bunny Suit' be something that shows off a male character's muscles in a way that is conventionally attractive?

I'd much prefer that than simply getting the female version.

Exactly. I prefer the "separate but equal" treatment to simply making every pretty dress wearable by males. :x

[AskaRay]

Honestly I want more androgynous clothing....
why?
Because that's the aesthetic I like. I don't like hulked out muscled men yet I see tons of tanks doing stuff like that, and since it's more "traditionally masculine" it's probably going to be more popular (hulked out muscled women on the other hand....good)

"Too far" is really just an opinion. I like feminine men and masculine women, that's my opinion. Yours is different and that's okay.

I want them to AT LEAST stop having female gear be the "unisex" gear. That needs to stop definitely. I mean, I'd love to have everything be gender neutral...but at least give an equivalent, cmon.

[Theodric]

Yes, well, one can always choose to play a female character if they have such an allergy to the male form.

It's fine to have different opinions - but it's become very common for a vocal minority of people to demand that companies bend over backwards to accommodate their tastes when...they're not the majority at all. Most people want to play women who look and act like women and men who look and act like men. It doesn't have to be super masculine or feminine but with how these 'crossdressing or riot' threads go we just see people demanding that everything becomes feminine or androgynous.

[Vivi_Bushido]

first off this stuff is for glamour and raiding is for end game content. glamour is meanness.


if your argue i won't be fair

dev can't eat fair dev have earn a living to pay for food for they family.

What on earth are you talking about?

And by the way, glamour is meaningless to you. Has it ever occurred to you that you're not the only person who plays this game? Some people play FFXIV to role play and glamour is very important. Stop being so self absorbed.

Raiding is "meanness" to a lot of people since they don't care to do it.

That doesn't mean it's unimportant to the game, though.

This is a video game.

If we wanna get technical, every thing is absolutely meaningless. The glamours, the raiding, the role playing. The only thing that has any value is the friendships and memories you make doing whatever it is you enjoy.

There is no right or wrong way method to playing this game. And that's the beauty of a theme park game.

[Vivi_Bushido]

Inb4 the male counterpart of the bunny suit, ends up showing no skin at all, and is more of a tux. Therefore making it actually an entirely different piece of gear for genders.