Recover HP/MP while standing still, out of battle, and enmity zeroed

[Viridiana]

Just to clarify, your point is that the immediate reaction to MP cost changes on cures was to bring in more healers, who took up what should have been DPS slots. This was done under because it required 4-5 healers at the time to keep the tank alive.

That's exactly right! Also that is a mere sub point in the larger discussion about the merits of objecting to patch notes or announcements. My goal was to foster some discussion about this issue, and there has been a lot of likes on the OP, which is good. Maybe we will at least see some official comment on the reasoning behind changing the regeneration to a stand still activity.

If that's your exact (sub) point, then I have to say that you're wrong. I provided video evidence of people three days after the patch defeating the Ogre with 3 healers all playing sub-optimally.

Now, let's go back to your chain:

DEV TEAM => GAME DESIGN => COMMUNITY => PLAYERS

Now, the Dev Team decided to make healing harder. That much was obviously accomplished, no question. I've given video evidence that the game was left balanced such that 2-3 healers would be enough, assuming they showed a modicum of skill. And remember that they were talking about encouraging skillful play at the time, which I think we can both agree doesn't mean just stacking healers.

Now, then, if the content was balanced for 2-3 healers, where did the idea come from to bring twice that? Any way you look at it, the problem wasn't at the design level, it was at the community level.

[PrettyPrincess]

So we're going to keep whining about this instead of waiting for the patch to see how it really is?

[Xmbei]

So we're going to keep whining about this instead of waiting for the patch to see how it really is?

of course PP, I thought we have already been indoctrinated in this since the forums were established. pre-whining before trying it!

[PrettyPrincess]

of course PP, I thought we have already been indoctrinated in this since the forums were established. pre-whining before trying it!

Oh right. HOW COULD I FORGET!? D:

[Jovy]

I know there are a lot of changes that happened last patch. I am also a mage and felt the system was tuff on mages. Then i just adapted and learned to change my style. I mean I never used spirit-bind b4 last patch and now i use it. I leveled other jobs to balance out my mage. I have a healer in my LS that can main cure the tank on orgre and batraal fight solo. It leaves me the option to nuke alot more. We even 7 manned the whole thing after a player dc'ed. Adapt to the situation guys, i have seen its success when done correctly. There are more changes comming. Try them out first.... see what can be done differently..... ask for advice.... if all else fails, make a post complaining about what u dont like and why its not working for you.

[Arcell]

Remember when there was no MP regen? Remember when we were praying to the gods for any kind of regen, we didn't care how. We've sure come a long way, now we can freely bitch about the means of MP regen.

[DeadRiser]

Probably this feature has future plans and featherfoot is one way to make up for the time being. Why don't we just WAIT AND SEE how it goes before we rage eachother to death. It's probably not as bad as you people are making it out to be.... I mean geex one more day peeps...

[Kiote]

Can I just ask was it such a big crime to partially regen while doing another task in this game like travelling, closing the distance to another enemy, or trying to get back some MP during a boss fight while doing nothing but casting cure 2?

Did we have to rewind the clock on all the progress this genre has made since it was nothing but a timesink designed to keep people paying a monthly fee as long as possible?

Is it really necessary for me to stop everything, stand perfectly still, and do nothing for 30 seconds to a minute every 3 or 4 fights while soloing?

Also I'm aware that there is another thread with somebody who thinks it's a great idea to rewind the clock back to 2002 and add an animation to the stated change, but I don't support that topic.

Why should we stand still in this game when we can go play another game that will regen us to full after standing still for 20 seconds every 10 minutes or so?

This is the cost of being able to cast without drawing your weapons. If they did not put this limitation on players Healers would be able to run around healing and fleeing from any possible damage and never come close to running our of MP. Without this kind of restriction we would be right back to where we were before 1.18 with parties being invincible as long as they has a Mage to Spam Cure.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

Or they could have given mages a cosmetic stance for healing without a weapon out that still counted as having a weapon out.

[Arcell]

Or they could have given mages a cosmetic stance for healing without a weapon out that still counted as having a weapon out.

To do something like this they'd have to add another option to the current passive > active > passive cycle. Without some kind of additional indicator taking up more screen space it would be hard for some to tell if they're in passive or active (no weapon) stance. I think the current fix is fine, it doesn't complicate things as much.