Quote Originally Posted by MrPresident View Post
I think the penalty is fine as it is. If people have a certain instance they hate and won't even attempt and bail instantly, then they've already gotten their punishment in the 30 minute ban. If SE cave and listen to people who want these ridiculous punishments then all that will happen is no one will ever leave an instance. They'll just derp around and/or AFK until you kick them to avoid punishment.
This is why vote kick ALSO is WAY too softball. The same penalties that apply when you abandon an instance should be applied when you are kicked from an instance. I suppose it'd be reasonable only to apply the penalty to folks who are vote-kicked with "Harrassment" as the reason selected. This would put the power to inflict the penalty or not into the hands of the party majority.

Folks whine that this is unfair to folks that are kicked for a legitimate d/c, or whatever, but currently folks abusing this feature to get out of an instance they don't like with no penalty is FAR more common than legit d/c's. Folks also fear that troll parties could use this as a tool to harrass people, but that's REALLY stretching things; while it could happen, it's very, very rare that people will form parties simply to harrass players.

And for folks saying that a 30 minute penalty is fine as it is, simply look to this thread. There are PLENTY of people here justifying cases where they'll eat the penalty because they hate some instance or another. That's exactly the point of the original post: if the penalty is so weak that players consider it preferable to take the punishment, then the penalty is not doing its job.