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    Cherie's Avatar
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    Cherry Fortuna
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I think trying to control people to make them stay is just gonna backfire.

    It's like when software companies say: "My software is unhackable!" Like, what happens? Next day a 12yr old hacker breaks the code and posts how to do it online.

    I don't care if it's justice or whatever. Spanking these people for being bad isn't going to make them change. If they don't want to be in that instance for whatever reason they are going to leave, regardless of the penalty.

    When someone bails, I'm super glad. I'm sure if they forced themselves to stay they'd be all cranky and unpleasant anyway.

    What happened to wanting people who actually want to be there? I know queue times suck but like... I guess people don't remember what it was like when you didn't have a duty finder and had to go stand outside the instance and shout for people... >.> Back then, people didn't get unhappy as much about how long it took... which is kinda odd right? They still did complain about it, but it wasn't a topic I heard as much...
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Pandaemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherie View Post
    If they don't want to be in that instance for whatever reason they are going to leave, regardless of the penalty.
    While this is generally true - the threshhold is higher.

    Without any penalty, people might leave just because they dislike the BGM of the dungeon. Especially tanks who really don't have any queues worth mentioning might bail over frivolous things.
    At a whole week of penalty, people would only leave in the most dire of circumstances, if they'd leave at all. Chances are, nobody would leave anymore and people would go AFK instead.

    Now the thing about roulettes is that you are supposed to accept whatever may come. Bailing equals abuse of the system. And that should be punished. At the same time, you do not want to punish people who have to bail due to dire circumstances or bail because of an abusive group too hard, for obvious reasons.

    That said, the current penalty system really doesn't do a great job at what it does. It's not really a deterrent, especially when you can just go and gather or be otherwise productive in the downtime. Heck, you can even queue for PvP while locked out of dungeons IIRC >_>

    And on that note: It's a shame SE seems to be rather understaffed, because kicking in dungeons is a function that should most definitely be coupled with a report that's to be investigated by a GM. Going AFK and demanding to be kicked should "not" be a thing that has to be tolerated.
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