Low level tanks (pre-tank stance) have a very hard time holding threat after the nerf

[Tsilyi]

Flash > Flash > Flash > Flash > Fast Blade > Flash > Riot Blade > Fast Blade > Riot Blade > Flash > Fast Blade > Riot Blade > Flash > Fast Blade > Riot Blade > Fast Blade > Riot Blade

There is no Savage Blade.

Is this hyperbole? I can't tell via text. I never had to do this much flash before nor after the tank changes even with dps attacking random targets.. Also, are just specifically suggesting this method for mob packs or are you saying for bosses as well (as in, did the savage blade threat buff not eclipse using flash single target at lower levels)?

[ashwich]

Is this hyperbole? I can't tell via text. I never had to do this much flash before nor after the tank changes even with dps attacking random targets.. Also, are just specifically suggesting this method for mob packs or are you saying for bosses as well (as in, did the savage blade threat buff not eclipse using flash single target at lower levels)?

going back on previous posts, I think he's absolutely serious. This is a good work around for trash pulls. I'm not sure about single target boss tbh, it may be on par or better than your standard FB>SB in a 15 sastasha.

But if someone is encouraged to use bizarre methods like this to hold hate, I think it's time for ability order revision.

[Pells]

Is this hyperbole? I can't tell via text. I never had to do this much flash before nor after the tank changes even with dps attacking random targets.. Also, are just specifically suggesting this method for mob packs or are you saying for bosses as well (as in, did the savage blade threat buff not eclipse using flash single target at lower levels)?

At low levels before you have Rage of Halone or Shield Oath, this is the biggest threat generation you can manage as a paladin. So no, it's not hyperbole.

going back on previous posts, I think he's absolutely serious. This is a good work around for trash pulls. I'm not sure about single target boss tbh, it may be on par or better than your standard FB>SB in a 15 sastasha.

But if someone is encouraged to use bizarre methods like this to hold hate, I think it's time for ability order revision.

Neither is it bizarre. It's been this way since 2.0 launched. The reason it's looked down on is because Flash does no damage. That is: it doesn't fit the dps tanking meta. You know, that thing that's only applicable at Savage level raiding with a static. So of course you would follow it at level 15 in a pug dungeon...

[Tsilyi]

At low levels before you have Rage of Halone or Shield Oath, this is the biggest threat generation you can manage as a paladin. So no, it's not hyperbole.

I see... I have not had to resort to that much flash at any time before or after the changes pre-halone/shield oath, but I could understand if you're worried about aoe threat. Surely it's not better single target threat with the buff to savage blade, that was my main question.

[Launched]

I see... I have not had to resort to that much flash at any time before or after the changes pre-halone/shield oath, but I could understand if you're worried about aoe threat. Surely it's not better single target threat with the buff to savage blade, that was my main question.

Flash is 600 potency per GCD. Fast>Savage is 150+(3.5*200)=850, or 425 per GCD.