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    Quote Originally Posted by Februs View Post
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    While I don't disagree with everything you've said here, I'm still in the opinion that it's still THAT much harder to kill players than it is to protect/heal players after the initial bursting phase.
    Its just that almost all sustain dmg after the initial bursts can be healed up in one or two spell casts. This creates a situation where PLD doesn't have to work all that hard to protect their team; in my opinion any way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slib View Post
    Only thing id change is pld and drk for the first set. But other than that you are spot on with my list
    Personally, I'm not sure that Drk should even be included in the list because no matter how well you actually play that job, you're still at a disadvantage compared to Pld and War. That's not so much a skill issue as it is a design flaw >.>

    Quote Originally Posted by DxWings View Post
    While I don't disagree with everything you've said here, I'm still in the opinion that it's still THAT much harder to kill players than it is to protect/heal players after the initial bursting phase.
    To each their own. Honestly, most players opt for tunnel visioning one thing and one thing only while they're actually in-match, so it tends to be a lot simpler in practice than it is in writing. It's a bit of a different story when actually attempting to maximize what your job can actually do, though. If party defense was the only job of a Pld while in game, then I'd agree with you. War would have more pressure, in that circumstance. That's not the only job they can do, though. They have more party potential than that, and balancing all of their utility can be challenging; so, I'm still going to side with them for having the higher skill ceiling in PvP.
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    Well, I know that Whms are supposed to be able to pull more heals than astro... But I don't see it often >.>
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post


    Well, I know that Whms are supposed to be able to pull more heals than astro... But I don't see it often >.>
    That is grotesque overhealing as a diurnal ast. That is not even realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renault View Post
    That is grotesque overhealing as a diurnal ast. That is not even realistic.

    It looks like its 8v8 as well. With a tonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn of over healing. :l
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    :| 'cept it wasn't overhealing. most matches have whms in there doing over 700k. I had to heal more since the whm was healing less.

    My win ratio in 8v8 pvp is 72.2%, so Ima keep doing what I am doing XD



    I do more heals than whms in 4v4 as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    :| 'cept it wasn't overhealing. most matches have whms in there doing over 700k. I had to heal more since the whm was healing less.

    My win ratio in 8v8 pvp is 72.2%, so Ima keep doing what I am doing XD



    I do more heals than whms in 4v4 as well.
    Any time you are playing a class that uses AOE HoTs, the majority of your healing will be overhealing. Also, I'm sorry, but 8v8 doesn't matter. Also, the reason you outheal WHMs is probably because lots of their GCDs are spent on casting sleep, where as yours are not. Also also, as a healer main, who plays AST and WHM equally, I can say that if you have 575k healing done in a 4v4, you are overhealing immensely. Another thing I noticed in both your SS's is that you are posting one sided matches where you team is winning by a landslide. How about you post a match where you are under more pressure?
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