We need an AH

[Naryl]

the only thing I would add to MW is a search for items retainers are BUYING, so we could just go there and sell them the items they want instead of selling everything to the npc.

[Seif]

I wonder if they're going to address this issue in the upcoming event on Tuesday or if it's just going to be them waving and cherry picking easy stuff like bikini and crafting questions...

[Zenaku]

No we do not.

Current Marketward Transaction

Enter wards
Search for Item
Find Seller
Go to ward
Pick up Item

The quickest you can do it is approximately 30 seconds. The longest I've ever searched for a specific item is less then 2 minutes.


FFXI > Blind Auction
Run to AH
Search through item lists for item you want
Find item you want (100 Listed)
Check Item History
Bid for item 10% lower then item history:
wait 5 seconds
Fail
Bid for Item 5% lower then item history:
wait 5 seconds
Fail
Bid for item same as last item History:
wait 5 seconds
fail
Re-check Item History, Recent item has been sold since last checked. 15% more then one before it.
Bid for item same price as new last one sold :
wait 5 seconds
Fail
Bid for item 5% more then last one sold:
wait 5 seconds
Success, Item delivered to inventory.


WoW
Go to Auction House.
Filter through items you want. See that everything in your level is posted for prices that are way above your characters possible gold at your level.
Find one that is decent. Bid on it.
Wait 2 days. Lose Bid.
Look again
Find new item. Bid.
wait 4 hours. Win Bid.
Wait hour for item to deliver to mail box.
Find mailbox to pick it up.


Auctions Fail. The only difference between the Marketward and an Auction house is the marketward has no Auction. Blind or Timed.

Now for WoW they do have a buy it now but guess what.

Search for item
Buy It Now
Go to Mailbox
Pick up Item

YOU STILL HAVE TO GO PICK UP THE ITEM.

Half of what you just said take less then 5min vs the market ward. WoW ah is better then ffxi version so i guess i take WOW AH with a bid/Buy now and then just let us have the item right there and then problem fixed.

[Zezlar]

We don't really need a AH. They just need to add further improvements to the Market Ward system. They need to let us be able to search for the + qualities of items. The ability to sort items by level or class. Also it would be nice if they showed us what exactly it is what we sold.

[Molly_Millions]

We don't really need a AH. They just need to add further improvements to the Market Ward system. They need to let us be able to search for the + qualities of items. The ability to sort items by level or class. Also it would be nice if they showed us what exactly it is what we sold.

Indeed, the MW could be improved in a few ways to make them more user friendly.

I honestly feel that those of you complaining about not having an AH would just find something else to complain about if you got it. The wards are nowhere near as bad as you all seem to think. Sure, items could be easier to find, but as soon as you remember what items are in what ward, it's cake to find what you need.

[odette]

No we do not.

Current Marketward Transaction

Enter wards
Search for Item
Find Seller
Go to ward
Pick up Item

The quickest you can do it is approximately 30 seconds. The longest I've ever searched for a specific item is less then 2 minutes.


FFXI > Blind Auction
Run to AH
Search through item lists for item you want
Find item you want (100 Listed)
Check Item History
Bid for item 10% lower then item history:
wait 5 seconds
Fail
Bid for Item 5% lower then item history:
wait 5 seconds
Fail
Bid for item same as last item History:
wait 5 seconds
fail
Re-check Item History, Recent item has been sold since last checked. 15% more then one before it.
Bid for item same price as new last one sold :
wait 5 seconds
Fail
Bid for item 5% more then last one sold:
wait 5 seconds
Success, Item delivered to inventory.


WoW
Go to Auction House.
Filter through items you want. See that everything in your level is posted for prices that are way above your characters possible gold at your level.
Find one that is decent. Bid on it.
Wait 2 days. Lose Bid.
Look again
Find new item. Bid.
wait 4 hours. Win Bid.
Wait hour for item to deliver to mail box.
Find mailbox to pick it up.


Auctions Fail. The only difference between the Marketward and an Auction house is the marketward has no Auction. Blind or Timed.

Now for WoW they do have a buy it now but guess what.

Search for item
Buy It Now
Go to Mailbox
Pick up Item

YOU STILL HAVE TO GO PICK UP THE ITEM.

WoW have beeter AH that FFXI, seriously market ward is crappy, if you want buy many diferent items, you could take 10 minutes, in wow 3 minutes.
wow AH you can write name of item that you want, you dont need still waste time looking items for crappy menus
ffxi you cant see the real price was wierd

wow ah have good system and people that study economy can explain you the reason

[GreatLeviathan]

We all now wow if for lowlifes lol
I like the market wards. You can find everything you look for in 1 minute.
You just have to know what you are doing.

[Jinko]

We all now wow if for lowlifes lol
I like the market wards. You can find everything you look for in 1 minute.
You just have to know what you are doing.

So basically man 1 says to man 2, I'm more superior than you because I enjoy struggling and find it exhilarating (ie iz dumb), man 2 shrugs and goes to the WoW AH.

[Gennosuke]

What do you mean we don't need an AH?
Yes, i agree that AH buying has been improved with the search feature. Selling however, is still a major pain, frustration and a seriously unwarranted timesink that offers no value.

Ideal design requires minimal time to do your purchasing/selling. Anything that consumes hours as has been stated by many players, esp. those who who are more involved in the economy, is ridiculous. I as many others don't even bother using marketward for selling coz it's too much of a stupid timesink, many of us just resort to vendoring instead. We need an easy quick hassle-free system to work with.

This needs to be addressed or the game is simply lacking core functionality.

Enough fixing recipe and crafting changes, no point when the economy/market system is broken. SE, please Stop wasting precious time there and setup the AH already..!
It's been ditched for a whole year now. >.< Surely you're past the "examining AH" stage now.

[Dreamer]

Enough fixing recipe and crafting changes, no point when the economy/market system is broken. SE, please Stop wasting precious time there and setup the AH already..!
It's been ditched for a whole year now. >.< Surely you're past the "examining AH" stage now.

They took the Auction House entry off the table two or three producer's letters ago. It's not going to be added.