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    Just out of curiosity, from what I looked up I could only find short texts about the Yafaem Saltmoore but nothing else, how do you know it is that place? :0
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    Yea, I suppose the language barrier can be an issue sometimes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Just out of curiosity, from what I looked up I could only find short texts about the Yafaem Saltmoore but nothing else, how do you know it is that place? :0
    It was the site of the capitol of Mhach. Its most logically where we would be going to explore Mhachi ruins, certainly of the scale we see in the screenshots, and the second raid definitely looks Mhachi from its architecture.
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    Oh that does makes sense, If it really is, it would be a shame to reduce an entire region to just one raid instance...
    So I guess SoM's second raid will then be us raiding the old Mhach palace and the third installment be us fighting Diablos and the queen in the void.
    I'm starting to see a pattern coming to birth here given how CT ended in the realm of darkness which is part of the void as well.
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    How about that big silhouette in chains, a Sephirot type boss fight? Any potential lore about that character around anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    Would not surprise me if the Mhach were founded by survivors of some Allagans. For one thing, the late Allagan period dealt with the Void and its residence.

    From what I see the Mhach looked rather technologically advanced compared to Amdapor and Nym.
    There was an entire Astral Era between the fall of the Allag and the Mhach. While the Mhach, and for that matter almost everyone in Eorzea, decend from the Allag since they ruled all of Eorzea for at least several hundred years, the Mhach would have come from a civilisation that grew from the ruins of Allag.

    Quote Originally Posted by Phyllo View Post
    Oh that does makes sense, If it really is, it would be a shame to reduce an entire region to just one raid instance...
    So I guess SoM's second raid will then be us raiding the old Mhach palace and the third installment be us fighting Diablos and the queen in the void.
    I'm starting to see a pattern coming to birth here given how CT ended in the realm of darkness which is part of the void as well.
    I suspect your right about the third raid. Several of the names we have seen reference Mytholical figures, most notably Scáthach which make me think we might also see a connection to Ferdiad who along with Cúchulainn was one of Scáthach students.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sc%C3%A1thach

    Interestingly, apart from being a legendary female Warrior, she lived in a place called Dún Scáith which literally translates into Fortress of Shadows, a rather voidsenty sounding location. Third raid location my bet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
    How about that big silhouette in chains, a Sephirot type boss fight? Any potential lore about that character around anywhere?
    I actually think that may be a statue. It looks like a much larger version of the statues we saw aboard the Void Ark. It could be a boss though, can only speculate really. We know far too little about the Mhach to guess who it could be or who it could represent at this point.
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    So this rises my two following questions,

    1.- Is Mhach a play on the suffix Machy/Machi/Machy that denots war/battles, it fits if you realize all the voidsends regaining power as the Shadows of "War" from the War of the Magi.

    and as said here:



    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    I suspect your right about the third raid. Several of the names we have seen reference Mytholical figures, most notably Scáthach which make me think we might also see a connection to Ferdiad who along with Cúchulainn was one of Scáthach students.

    2.-How Cuchulainn works with the rest of the Espers/Scions because they already used the name? (Tho the one in VA has a strong resemblance to the one of the zodiac). I might be thinking too much bout this point, we already saw a few other names around Eorzea but by no means they are in the same _social circle_
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    I don't think we should look too much into the FF12 Espers for FF14. Cuchulainn, Ferdiad and Scathach are all voidsent, while Belias is an elder primal. While I think there are references I don't think they are going to copy everything across the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
    I don't think we should look too much into the FF12 Espers for FF14. Cuchulainn, Ferdiad and Scathach are all voidsent, while Belias is an elder primal. While I think there are references I don't think they are going to copy everything across the same.
    Don't forget, Zalera is a fish
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