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    Quote Originally Posted by Risaka View Post
    I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet but there's a cave in the northeast corner of the Dravanian Forelands which has some Aztec like door tucked there

    Looks like a possible entrance for that new Void Ark raid map
    Based on the information we have, its mostly sure that is not.

    The ruins on Dravania, have nothing to do with the ruins of the Mhach.
    Those are 2 different civilisations, separated by thousands of years.
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 04-03-2016 at 03:42 AM. Reason: To avoid misunderstandings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Also the ruins of dravania and the mhach has nothing to do with this.
    Um last I checked, Mhach has everything to do with the Void Ark and its successor raid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Based on the information we have, its mostly sure that is not.

    Also the ruins of dravania and the mhach has nothing to do with this.
    It's the Mhach capital that we're going to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risaka View Post
    I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet but there's a cave in the northeast corner of the Dravanian Forelands which has some Aztec like door tucked there

    Looks like a possible entrance for that new Void Ark raid map
    Not likely. The next area is likely the Yafaem Saltmoors, which is to the Southeast of Dravania, just to the northwest of Mor Dhona.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risaka View Post
    I'm not sure if anyone posted this yet but there's a cave in the northeast corner of the Dravanian Forelands which has some Aztec like door tucked there

    Looks like a possible entrance for that new Void Ark raid map
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Um last I checked, Mhach has everything to do with the Void Ark and its successor raid
    Quote Originally Posted by Alberel View Post
    It's the Mhach capital that we're going to...
    Did you both read the comment of Risaka?

    He said that the entrance of the second part of the "Shadow of Mhach" raid, is on the dravanian forelands.
    The ruins where the "entrance" is, are the ruins of the elezen people that lived with the dragons after the events of Shiva.

    Thats very much obious that is not. The ruins in Dravania Forelands, has no relation what so ever with the Mhach.

    Plis read carefully >_>
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 04-02-2016 at 03:01 PM.

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    Your words are sort of muddled. "The ruins of Dravania and the Mhach have nothing to do with this"-- "this" is almost certainly going to be taken to mean 'the next Void Ark zone' as described in the thread title, and Risaka's final line.

    Your post definitely comes across as dismissing "the next Void Ark zone" as having "nothing to do with Dravania or Mhach" which is factually incorrect--because as others have pointed out, Void Ark and Mhach are pretty much the same thing--well, Void Ark is a product of the Mhachi anyway. It is correct in establishing the disconnect between Dravania and Void Ark though.

    This failure to understand your meaning almost certainly stems from a lesson I learned in high school: "Don't let a sleeping 'this' lie. Make clear what 'this' is!" etc. You might've been served better by clarifying further: "The Mhachi/next Void Ark zone have nothing to do with the Dravanian Ruins in the Forelands" etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Your words are sort of muddled. "The ruins of Dravania and the Mhach have nothing to do with this"-- "this" is almost certainly going to be taken to mean 'the next Void Ark zone' as described in the thread title, and Risaka's final line.

    Your post definitely comes across as dismissing "the next Void Ark zone" as having "nothing to do with Dravania or Mhach" which is factually incorrect--because as others have pointed out, Void Ark and Mhach are pretty much the same thing--well, Void Ark is a product of the Mhachi anyway. It is correct in establishing the disconnect between Dravania and Void Ark though.

    This failure to understand your meaning almost certainly stems from a lesson I learned in high school: "Don't let a sleeping 'this' lie. Make clear what 'this' is!" etc. You might've been served better by clarifying further: "The Mhachi/next Void Ark zone have nothing to do with the Dravanian Ruins in the Forelands" etc.
    I knew this was the only possible way someone could make an excuse of why they didnt "understand" my comment.
    What I wrote what obious and easy to understand, even more with the comment I replyed, if some people misunderstood it, there is nothing I can do. Mistakes happen, just need to read carefully.

    Sure you will continue to debate, keeping saing that Im wrong, but well I'm not here for that.

    Thanks anyway.
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    Last edited by Frederick22; 04-02-2016 at 04:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    I knew this was the only possible way someone could make an excuse of why they didnt "understand" my comment.
    What I wrote what obious and easy to understand, even more with the comment I replyed, if some people misunderstood it, there is nothing I can do. Mistakes happen, just need to read carefully.

    Sure you will continue to debate, keeping saing that Im wrong, but well I'm not here for that.

    Thanks anyway.
    I also had to read your post a few times to figure out what you meant. I don't think anybody is trying to be mean or 'one up' you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Did you both read the comment of Risaka?

    He said that the entrance of the second part of the "Shadow of Mhach" raid, is on the dravanian forelands.
    The ruins where the "entrance" is, are the ruins of the elezen people that lived with the dragons after the events of Shiva.

    Thats very much obious that is not. The ruins in Dravania Forelands, has no relation what so ever with the Mhach.

    Plis read carefully >_>
    That's not what you said though.

    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    Also the ruins of dravania and the mhach has nothing to do with this.
    In the context of the discussion your comment explicitly meant that the raid has nothing to do with Dravania or Mhach. I know English isn't your first language and this isn't a big deal but everyone did read your post correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frederick22 View Post
    I knew this was the only possible way someone could make an excuse of why they didnt "understand" my comment.
    What I wrote what obious and easy to understand, even more with the comment I replyed, if some people misunderstood it, there is nothing I can do. Mistakes happen, just need to read carefully.

    Sure you will continue to debate, keeping saing that Im wrong, but well I'm not here for that.

    Thanks anyway.
    Because it is what you said. You may have meant somethine else, but they way you wrote it means the way he took it. There is no need to be agressive about it. It is just a language barrier mistake.
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