Dark Arts Adjustment

[Jpec07]

Wow, this makes me glad I am still playing and switched to Warrior. Does he know how much Dark Arts costs? You can't even use 99% of your abilities with DA because its not worth the costs. Dark Arts and Darkside just EAT your mana away.

1. You don't even have a Dark Knight that we can tell, so you have literally zero stake in this discussion. You also have stated numerous times that you don't tank serious content in this game, so can't have any understanding of how the job functions in the real world.
2. If you are hiding a Dark Knight somewhere and aren't using Dark Arts, you're playing it wrong. You're supposed to use your MP on Dark Arts extremely strategically, and build it back up when you're good to go without it for a bit.
3. Just because you don't know how to plan ahead and use Dark Arts strategically, and so think the job is broken doesn't mean that it actually is, and doesn't mean that there aren't millions of other people who do know how to do those things to very great effect. Never assume your experience is universal.

This changes nothing honestly.

On this we can agree, because a good Dark Knight will only use it as often as she or he needs to, and having a slightly shorter cooldown isn't going to change that.

The only way I can see this working is if Blood Weapon got a reduced CD and was useful in Grit and up all the time.

Refer to the numeric list above. No DRKs on your account, no raiding experience, you aren't playing it right, and your experience isn't universal. I feel bad saying this, but you should seriously learn to play the class before you act like you know what you're talking about (or stop trolling us, if that's what it is, because we're all getting tired of it).

[Nektulos-Tuor]

1. You don't even have a Dark Knight that we can tell, so you have literally zero stake in this discussion. You also have stated numerous times that you don't tank serious content in this game, so can't have any understanding of how the job functions in the real world.
2. If you are hiding a Dark Knight somewhere and aren't using Dark Arts, you're playing it wrong. You're supposed to use your MP on Dark Arts extremely strategically, and build it back up when you're good to go without it for a bit.
3. Just because you don't know how to plan ahead and use Dark Arts strategically, and so think the job is broken doesn't mean that it actually is, and doesn't mean that there aren't millions of other people who do know how to do those things to very great effect. Never assume your experience is universal.

On this we can agree, because a good Dark Knight will only use it as often as she or he needs to, and having a slightly shorter cooldown isn't going to change that.


Refer to the numeric list above. No DRKs on your account, no raiding experience, you aren't playing it right, and your experience isn't universal. I feel bad saying this, but you should seriously learn to play the class before you act like you know what you're talking about (or stop trolling us, if that's what it is, because we're all getting tired of it).

Linked it before, don't feel like doing it again. I have a 60 Warrior and a 60 DRK. So please don't just assume.

Also, adjusting a change like this can be more negative then good, ruining rotations.

Also, I read Japanese forums. They all say the same thing; MP cost is too much. So please; don't troll and assume things either person. THANK You.

[Jpec07]

Linked it before, don't feel like doing it again. I have a 60 Warrior and a 60 DRK. So please don't just assume.

Where is this link (which thread?), and why is it not tied to your forum account? Yours is the credibility at stake.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Where is this link (which thread?), and why is it not tied to your forum account? Yours is the credibility at stake.

Could care less honestly.

Also, this has nothing to do with the thread. Stay on topic please. :P

[Jpec07]

I could care less honestly. I am Talathion, who are you?

I'm Jpec07. I have two tanking mains at 60, linked to my account on the forum (and a WHM/SMN I haven't linked yet named Sh'mara Naham, in the same FC). I regularly tank Expert Roulette, Trial Roulette, 24-man raids, Main Scenario Roulette, and Alexander Gordias and Midas in an attempt to keep them geared. I just unlocked the Awoken Anima weapon on my main, because the grind hasn't seemed completely worthwhile to me until recently. I haven't had an opportunity to do Ex or Savage raiding, but my FC is building up to start recruiting soon, which hopefully means we'll be pushing the front line with the rest of them. I read these forums more than I probably should, and while I have crazy notions about Parry, I'll generally admit when I'm wrong, and don't try to obfuscate my identity.

Who are you, Talathion?

What we can see is that you're Therion Kator'to, the Scholar who is still only wearing Eso gear.

Also, this has nothing to do with the thread. Stay on topic please. :P

Oh but it most certainly does have to do with this thread. You're naysaying the changes based upon your "own experiences," but so far as any of us can tell, those experiences are not actually yours. So you're basing your stance on the matter at hand on what seems to be, by all accounts, either a fabrication or a delusion.

Regardless of your experience, though, and whether or not you are who and what you say you are, you have failed to address any of my later points, which dismantle your notion that Dark Arts ought to be avoided.

EDIT:

Also, I read Japanese forums. They all say the same thing; MP cost is too much. So please; don't troll and assume things either person. THANK You.

If this is so, would you mind linking to a few such comments and threads? Google translate is pretty crappy, but at least it can help get the gist of what's being said.