So, what's with the lack of Machinist in DF?

[Nektulos-Tuor]

As much as it sucks to have 2 DPS with a lower potential, this is a weird and rude behaviour. You're wasting a lot of time for them to potentially save yourself a few minutes (not really because you get the penalty).

I want to reiterate that the potential is less, but not necessarily their DPS. A bard can do ~90% of a black mage for example. However, I've yet to see anyone in DF pull better than 86% of my damage done with my ilvl 212 summoner (yes I realize aoe on summoner is insane, but most summoners I actually see pull 73% or less and the one who hit 86% was a monk.) Long story short, the player skill is more important than the job played.

I have not come across one person in DF dungeons that can do higher DPS than myself on MCH. The point is, it is the player that delivers more than the job. I would take two good BRD/MCH in a dungeon over two cruddy BLM/SMN any day.

Also, BRD and MCH do really good damage, especially in raiding scenes (assuming you are not having to use MP song/turret too much). In a equal skill level/gear with other players, we are only slightly behind. I keep up with the other people in my party just fine.

That being said, it is a large understatement that a lot of MCH do not know how to be efficient at the job.

I actually didn't do that before the DPS nerf, but after the nerf just slugging through a dungeon isn't really fun or exciting. Its not nice but, but honestly people shouldn't be playing too much 75% DPS classes unless they actually buff their utility to compensate for having so much less damage.

I am speaking of typical people though, there are some seriously gifted people.

I do hope they look at classes like Bard or Dirge or Troubador and give them some real utility one day.