Petition Against Ifrit Weapon Designs

[Doho]

this petition and all cosigners have lost their mind lol.

seriously? tacky, out of place, bulky etc. have you even played a final fantasy?

walking dolls, swords made out of water.. huge bolts and screws. get out of here lol

[SilvertearRen]

this petition and all cosigners have lost their mind lol.

seriously? tacky, out of place, bulky etc. have you even played a final fantasy?

walking dolls, swords made out of water.. huge bolts and screws. get out of here lol

I think the point is that the art direction is inconsistent with the theme being set by Final Fantasy XIV.

Walking dolls like the moogle held by Lulu? In-theme, associated with Final Fantasy X. It actually suits her role.

The giant f*cking metal sword wielded by Cloud Strife? Style decision by the devs, and it still made sense within the context of a world where Mako is the power source.

Get my drift? Big f*cking honking horns for weapons, when there were no prior examples, sets a VERY bad precedent for future art direction.

Please, study game design, and art direction before you people open your stupid-ass mouths.

P.S. When we look at Ifrit's weapons in the context of FFXIV, it makes no sense because we all know it's unlikely to actually permanently kill a Primal and rip off the horns off his body - doing so would effectively destroy the lore of FFXIV's world. Therefore, the weapons do not have any appropriate context that can be applied.

[Viridiana]

P.S. When we look at Ifrit's weapons in the context of FFXIV, it makes no sense because we all know it's unlikely to actually permanently kill a Primal and rip off the horns off his body - doing so would effectively destroy the lore of FFXIV's world. Therefore, the weapons do not have any appropriate context that can be applied.

But. . . Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It!

With slightly less sarcasm: Even if we wind up not killing him, per se, there's nothing saying we can't break off his horns and turn them into crazy weapons while he's off licking his wounds.

Again, I'd like to point out that it's entirely likely that this over-the-top style will only ever be applied to primal weapons, not to the rank and file. Is it really so bad to have a subset that (consistently) breaks the norm?

[bojangles]

But. . . Ifrit Bleeds, We Can Kill It!

With slightly less sarcasm: Even if we wind up not killing him, per se, there's nothing saying we can't break off his horns and turn them into crazy weapons while he's off licking his wounds.

Again, I'd like to point out that it's entirely likely that this over-the-top style will only ever be applied to primal weapons, not to the rank and file. Is it really so bad to have a subset that (consistently) breaks the norm?

Bong of Destiny.

[Physic]

I think the point is that the art direction is inconsistent with the theme being set by Final Fantasy XIV.

Walking dolls like the moogle held by Lulu? In-theme, associated with Final Fantasy X. It actually suits her role.

The giant f*cking metal sword wielded by Cloud Strife? Style decision by the devs, and it still made sense within the context of a world where Mako is the power source.

Get my drift? Big f*cking honking horns for weapons, when there were no prior examples, sets a VERY bad precedent for future art direction.

Please, study game design, and art direction before you people open your stupid-ass mouths.

P.S. When we look at Ifrit's weapons in the context of FFXIV, it makes no sense because we all know it's unlikely to actually permanently kill a Primal and rip off the horns off his body - doing so would effectively destroy the lore of FFXIV's world. Therefore, the weapons do not have any appropriate context that can be applied.

I am an artist. I have done concept art. Dont try to pull some superior artist tone thing, thats still your subjective opinion. Your idea that the primal cant be defeated, and his parts harvested... well thats exactly what you have to do to get the weapon. Maybe its a false body, or is created out of aether when he enters the plane. Regardless, he will in fact be killed for every person who gets the weapon.

in your opinion, you dont like them. They make sense being primal based weapons from a giany horny flame monster, since amalja are connected to ifrit, it should have an amalja like sensibility.

also the weapons should look more unique when they are not mass produced. If you dont like the weapon dont use it. Dont try to outlaw everyone else from something because YOU dont like how it looks.

I dont understand why people think that everyone in the world should follow their own aethetic. I dont love most the weapons either, but im not saying they shouldnt exist. Its foolish

[RikkCavalier]

I am an artist. I have done concept art. Dont try to pull some superior artist tone thing, thats still your subjective opinion. Your idea that the primal cant be defeated, and his parts harvested... well thats exactly what you have to do to get the weapon. Maybe its a false body, or is created out of aether when he enters the plane. Regardless, he will in fact be killed for every person who gets the weapon.

in your opinion, you dont like them. They make sense being primal based weapons from a giany horny flame monster, since amalja are connected to ifrit, it should have an amalja like sensibility.

also the weapons should look more unique when they are not mass produced. If you dont like the weapon dont use it. Dont try to outlaw everyone else from something because YOU dont like how it looks.

I dont understand why people think that everyone in the world should follow their own aethetic. I dont love most the weapons either, but im not saying they shouldnt exist. Its foolish

With as few updates they make with new items and weapons, I ultimately think this was a dissappointment for some, myself included. It's not foolish to want SE to have the best possible relaunch if and when the PS3 version is released. I can tell you that most people that play this game, do not have the same aesthetic tastes as those who play WOW and the like, for obvious reasons.

Again, it just looks like a 3D modeler put these weapons together last minute. Um, excuse me, they reworked the dev team for a reason. Let's not forget that, please. We are trying to fix this game, (and yes we have an influence on the development believe it or not) not make it less than what it could be, especially to those who still play and will continue to play whether they implement this absurd design or not. This is just a tool to say "Hey, SE, we really don't like this, please change it if you can!" And you said yourself that you're displeased with certain weapons but you don't say anything, so don't disallow or judge people that DO vocalize their opinions. Hardcore fans know what the name Final Fantasy entails.

[Physic]

With as few updates they make with new items and weapons, I ultimately think this was a dissappointment for some, myself included. It's not foolish to want SE to have the best possible relaunch if and when the PS3 version is released. I can tell you that most people that play this game, do not have the same aesthetic tastes as those who play WOW and the like, for obvious reasons.

Again, it just looks like a 3D modeler put these weapons together last minute. Um, excuse me, they reworked the dev team for a reason. Let's not forget that, please. We are trying to fix this game, (and yes we have an influence on the development believe it or not) not make it less than what it could be, especially to those who still play and will continue to play whether they implement this absurd design or not. This is just a tool to say "Hey, SE, we really don't like this, please change it if you can!" And you said yourself that you're displeased with certain weapons but you don't say anything, so don't disallow or judge people that DO vocalize their opinions. Hardcore fans know what the name Final Fantasy entails.

I understand being dissapointed, and i understand not liking the designs. I however dont agree that because someone does not like a design means it should not exist. There are a lot of different people out there, with different tastes. The whole consistency angle is incorrect, This is a world game, it isnt a continent game. If you pay attention to the lore, you see that the perspective we as charachters are familiar with, is a very small one. People know almost nothing about garleans other than they are the enemy, most people dont even understand the beastmen on a basic level.

Point is beastmen are a totally different culture and world, the only ones that even somewhat interact are the flower ones, and even their aesthetic looks very different. It is illogical that weapons made from/for in relation to the amall ja god, look like things that were made in the city states of a totally different culture.

Now, you can say the designs suck, i dont want em, or whatever, but they make sense in the context of the game. Most of you are more afraid that everything will look like ifrit weapons in the future. I hope not, not even because i dislike them, but because they should have MORE options on looks. Its supposed to be a game about (at this point) 4 different beastmen factions, eorzeans, and garleans.

Hating the art is fine, wanting them not to make everything look like it is fine. (dunno why yall are worried too much about this, we have already seen job armors which doesnt look like this at all) But saying they shouldnt exist, is a huge stretch.