Recipe changes in 1.19

[JackDaniels]

In regards to Javelin Heads being listed in the Updated Recipes list but are also in the Items not Used in New Recipes list, these are changes to simplify the current recipes that are still going to remain in the game, but that those items won't be used in the new recipes.

The Javelin Heads will still be created by using specific Nuggets and Iron Javelin Heads just wont drop from monsters anymore.

I think you're as confused as we are maybe?

[YuriSan]

this list may see the resurrection of my short lived crafting career.

YES!
This is exactly the people i am talking about that will be the ones that are happy with this update.
People that dont like crafting.
Chances are u still wont craft much after the patch either.

Previous recipe for Thunderstorm Axe:

Silver Ingot
Undyed Canvas
Brimstone
Scale Glue
Storm Axe Head
Maple Axe Haft
Silver Axe Butt

New recipe for Thunderstorm Axe: (R46 weapon lol)

Steel Ingot
Walnut Lumber
Silver Ingot

Enough said...

[darkstarpoet1]

YES!
This is exactly the people i am talking about that will be the ones that are happy with this update.
People that dont like crafting.
Chances are u still wont craft much after the patch either.

Previous recipe for Thunderstorm Axe:

Silver Ingot
Undyed Canvas
Brimstone
Scale Glue
Storm Axe Head
Maple Axe Haft
Silver Axe Butt

New recipe for Thunderstorm Axe: (R46 weapon lol)

Steel Ingot
Walnut Lumber
Silver Ingot

Enough said...

exactly. the ones that didn't craft before will talk about how great these changes are and craft for a few days and realize the same mini game and standard bashing is there and then completely stop crafting again.

[YuriSan]

Silver Ingot: Gets melted and coats/engraves the weapon head.

Undyed Canvas: used to be wrapped around the weapon haft to give a good grip at it.

Brimstone: used to grind the blade of the weapon.

Scale Glue: used to glue the weapon head on the haft.

Storm Axe Head: the weapon head itself.

Maple Axe Haft: the weapon haft used to hold and swing the weapon.

Silver Axe Butt: used to keep the weapon wooden haft from splitting and deal lethal blows.

^^This is a weapon recipe!

Steel Ingot
Walnut Lumber
Silver Ingot

^^How is this a weapon recipe???

[Holland]

exactly. the ones that didn't craft before will talk about how great these changes are and craft for a few days and realize the same mini game and standard bashing is there and then completely stop crafting again.

Silver Ingot: Gets melted and coats the weapon head.

Undyed Canvas: used to be wrapped around the weapon haft to give a good grip at it.

Brimstone: used to grind the blade of the weapon.

Scale Glue: used to glue the weapon head on the haft.

Storm Axe Head: the weapon head itself.

Maple Axe Haft: the weapon haft used to hold and swing the weapon.

Silver Axe Butt: used to keep the weapon wooden haft from splitting and deal lethal blows.

^^This is a weapon recipe!

Steel Ingot
Walnut Lumber
Silver Ingot

^^How is this a weapon recipe???

I'm sorry guys but: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*Ahem* Please.. just let it go, the changes are in! enjoy them as much as you can like the rest of us! wooooooo *Parties* Over the best changes to crafting ever!!! Thank you Dev Team for the hard work put into these changes.

[YuriSan]

I'm sorry guys but: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*Ahem* Please.. just let it go, the changes are in! enjoy them as much as you can like the rest of us! wooooooo *Parties* Over the best changes to crafting ever!!! Thank you Dev Team for the hard work put into these changes.

Peeps need to understand that a thing such as a "bad update" actually exists! not every idea that a game developer ever comes up with is good...
It has been proven in the past.

Also everyone that is so high and mighty now and all easy going about all updates is like that untill the devs come up with an idea that they wont like.. they wont be all that easy going then

[darkstarpoet1]

I'm sorry guys but: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*Ahem* Please.. just let it go, the changes are in! enjoy them as much as you can like the rest of us! wooooooo *Parties* Over the best changes to crafting ever!!! Thank you Dev Team for the hard work put into these changes.

what is your problem man? i already have my crafts mostly leveled so the changes do not affect me much. i'm pointing out that the issues are more than just the recipes in crafting. the people that did not lke crafting before due to the standard bashing of synths and the boring mini game are still going to dislike it for the same reasons. i'll be busy just making items and making millions off people just like you anyways.

[Holland]

what is your problem man? i already have my crafts mostly leveled so the changes do not affect me much. i'm pointing out that the issues are more than just the recipes in crafting. the people that did not lke crafting before due to the standard bashing of synths and the boring mini game are still going to dislike it for the same reasons. i'll be busy just making items and making millions off people just like you anyways.

Ok this is how I see it: Players that dont have any craft leveled already tried the system. It sucked for us, so a lot of us didn't bother with it. SE noticed there is flaw in the system, so they attempt to fix it so more players try it out. No one has tried this update yet, so no one really knows how it will pan out. I rather try this out and see if I like it then see no changes at all and no craft at all.

I understand you are concerned for us and are thinking only for our well being and ejoyment, I thank you for that. But please, I didn't ask you to advocate on my behalf to SE. So stop and let me see for myself if I will like it or not. As opposed to you, I understand SE might do anything they feel like is right to this game and my role is only to see what they come up with and then provide feedback. They are the game developers not me, I'm just a tester and rest assured, if I dont like the changes I will provide feedback.

[YuriSan]

Ok this is how I see it: Players that dont have any craft leveled already tried the system. It sucked for us, so a lot of us didn't bother with it. SE noticed there is flaw in the system, so they attempt to fix it so more players try it out. No one has tried this update yet, so no one really knows how it will pan out. I rather try this out and see if I like it then see no changes at all and no craft at all.

That is perfectly fine. i dont like gathering so i dont gather...
Soooo many people are crafting. it's not like crafting is something that 90% of the population didn't like.
Also the mindless timesinking crafting isnt the thing that is changing...
So that aspect of it will stay the same so..
Whatever tho.

[Holland]

Peeps need to understand that a thing such as a "bad update" actually exists! not every idea that a game developer ever comes up with is good...
It has been proven in the past.

Also everyone that is so high and mighty now and all easy going about all updates is like that untill the devs come up with an idea that they wont like.. they wont be all that easy going then

It is not my job to come up with ideas or develop this game. That's SE job, what ever they can come up with, before rejecting it completely, I rather see what its like and then provide feedback. The crafting recipes could not stay the way there are now, that is a fact. They decided to go in one specific direction, by removing unnecessary steps and items from the process. Many members of the community came up with great ideas on how this could be done differently, but at the end of the day, they are the proffesional game developers, so they went with what they think is right. Will this work? who knows, What I see is the changes are already set. You can not deny the amount of balancing and rearranging that went through for this change, the least you could do is thank them for trying to make the game more enjoyable.

The crafting mini game argument can go both ways. even if it was extremely engaging and fun to do, I would still spent 75% of the crafting "process" NOT crafting, but hunting for parts to craft, and looking for other crafters to help me, and leveling other crafts I dont want to level to craft simple pieces of gear. The Crafting system is flawed on both ends, the recipes and the mini game, they have tried to fix one, I see an improvement, now they need to fix the other end.