MCH PVP Nerfs!? Really!?

[Houston009]

Also I don't understand this, how did they lose 10%, 15-20% I can get, but even then it's a gross exaggeration to me because it's really more like 10%. Not to mention you're trading off 10% DPS for a very large chunk of HP that makes you damn near unkillable. I've seen a WAR put down a double Berserk Fell Cleave and drop a healer, hell it's actually the strat most WAR's employee, is to just cleave the healer own quickly to win. I'm sorry, but I don't agree with this, and frankly WAR could use a bit of a nerf in capability to be brought more in line with DRK but still above PLD's DPS.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...701.1459208587

That's the 10% I'm talking about. Tanks lost more than 10% from vit changes, not gonna do the research for you.

Was the healer good, or mediocre? Just saying "oh warrior dropped my healer" doesn't mean anything. Especially since I've seen PLD/DRK do the same.

What Warrior brings is its burst, for the trade of less utility. Paladin has Cover, Testudo, Clemency, and a ton of other utility. If you wanna nerf Warrior's core role, then I assume you want Paladin to lose some utility.

Warrior does not need to be brought down to DRK, DRK needs to be brought up to PLD/WAR.

[RiceisNice]

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...701.1459208587

Unless I'm missing something here, all jobs including warrior, paladin and DRK have a 10% damage dealt increased over their class counterparts. The change back then was done to discourage people from going in as classes insteadof jobs.

[Houston009]

Unless I'm missing something here, all jobs including warrior, paladin and DRK have a 10% damage dealt increased over their class counterparts. The change back then was done to discourage people from going in as classes insteadof jobs.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d0980ac2b5a39c

"[2.0][3.0] Damage bonuses for tanks have been reduced in PvP encounters."

I may have over-exaggerated the net loss as 30% (Many tanks say they lost 30% in PvP). The reduction may have gone to 5,3, or even 1%. However, that loss of damage bonus + the physical vuln 10+% on every JOB + vit changes = 25%~ damage loss as a tank.