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  1. #81
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    Tabmow's Avatar
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    Myamoto Musashi
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    held back by consoles,who da thunk it?
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  2. #82
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    Ven Black
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    It's not like addons are horribly necessary anyway. We've survived this long without them, haven't we?
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  3. #83
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    Mael Bess
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I don't want a mess of addons, and as complicated as the game can be at times, add ons taking me through every part of the fight would feel even worse.
    Don't use them then, i won't even start the discussion that addons aren't only the DBM type, thing is atm, we don't even have a choice on what to use or how to customize our game, that is what we're asking, not a FFXIV DBM mod, that everybody needs to use, to streamline the fights.
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  4. #84
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Sage Lv 100
    Many things from the latest liveletter keeps me exciting (new Void Arc looks gorgeous, new grand company rank and gauß-barell invisible) but some aspects arent clearly answered yet (like inventory space, new housing area or PSO2 cross over event).

    The worst part was actually about Add-Ons. If they really plan to implement the FFXIV-counterpart of WoW-Addons or something, it would be a bad idea.

    Dont get me wrong. Some apps/add-ons can help, such as DPS-meters during raids, Hunt-Mob-Radars for Hunting or just the eorzea-clock for gathering. But it can also give other players a disadvantage, like early pulls in huntings or kicking players because of low damage. Thats why those add-ons arent really allowed by SE.

    In my opinion, the game should be not played with Add-Ons. This is NOT WoW! FFXIV should be challenging because of having no add-ons. If you want to heal, you do it in old fashioned way without any healer-add-ons. If you want to clear T5, you have to keep an eye on Twintania all the time. Add-ons can make the game easier, but thats what I m afraid about it: those could make it too easy.

    SAY NO TO ADD-ONS!
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    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulecrain View Post
    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicentis View Post
    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  5. #85
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    Mael Bess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
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    This is somewhat true and i agree with bits of it, but like i said addons aren't only combat related, when will people realize this? I mostly want an UI customization addon as there isn't enough freedom to what i can do with it right now. Also if SE/players are so afraid as to what DPS parsers would do to the community, (which i don't agree btw as i never saw this, taking WoW for example) they could still release the addon interface while not allowing DPS parsers to be in place.

    Anyway whether you want them or not, it seems they already exist through 3rd party software, although not very in agreement with the ToS, they're there and SE isn't really stopping them.

    i say YES to add-ons!
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  6. #86
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mael-bess View Post
    Don't use them then, i won't even start the discussion that addons aren't only the DBM type, thing is atm, we don't even have a choice on what to use or how to customize our game, that is what we're asking, not a FFXIV DBM mod, that everybody needs to use, to streamline the fights.
    yet. you are not asking for it YET.
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  7. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
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    Do people not even read the live letter translations? It's already been stated, when we do get addons, they'll be cosmetic changes only.
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  8. #88
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    Geistherz Gungnir
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Do people not even read the live letter translations? It's already been stated, when we do get addons, they'll be cosmetic changes only.
    Those are translations and even unoffical. Its not clear, what its all about. Maybe we will find out at a later time... .
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    - Queen of Heal 2022 -
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulecrain View Post
    Damit du als Queen of heal natürlich deine königlichen Wünsche erfüllt bekommst. ♥
    Quote Originally Posted by Dicentis View Post
    Ich finde es eh schon krank, dass du Paules Zitat ungefragt verwendest und ich weiß, dass du nie eine Erlaubnis dafür bekommen hast!

  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    Those are translations and even unoffical. Its not clear, what its all about. Maybe we will find out at a later time... .
    It's quite clear that Yoshida wants no sense of "discrimination" going on in FFXIV, or at least doesn't want to get bad players kicked out of content they're not good enough for. The raid finder was surprisingly though, considering you'd be able to queue and look for other people who have cleared the content and not newbies/people learning for the latest raiding (and EX primals, I'm assuming) content so that's nice. Regardless, I think Marko's translations are accurate.
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  10. #90
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    Because divebombs, conflags, and fireball totally don't make a sound and put a huge marker over your head. Dreadknights totally don't mark and stun the person they're aggroed to, either. Seriously, now. You really need the computer to spell it out for you?
    For me, personally? I don't really need it. It'd still make it easier for people to learn the fight with them, as even with all your markers and tethers it's still difficult to get people to react to them appropriately (and god forbid you play DPS, AKA the archetype in this game where it is incredibly easy to tunnel vision). I can acknowledge that in the big picture those addons wouldn't do much, but every little bit helps.
    It didn't take you long to try your hand at villifying me for my opinion there, chief.
    I'm just anticipating the responses, since the whole "I went through this, so you have to too" is par for the course for these discussions.
    I could care less how fast other people clear it or don't clear it. You're talking to someone that loves to join learning and clear parties and used to spend Saturday nights teaching content in Party Finder so other people clearing is actually something I like seeing. I just think that the amount of hand-holding being asked for here is pretty far out there.
    As I've said before, it's still up to the players to do what's needed to not die or wipe the raid. If it takes blaring sirens or big scrolling red text to get someone to notice a mechanic or learn it, I have no qualms with that because the side benefit of it is that I'm still clearing the content due to that person not messing up and dying (leading to failed DPS checks) or not doing something that would wipe the raid.

    It's kind of like teaching someone how to properly hold a musical instrument. Some people just get it naturally without much help, while others need either constant reminders or some form of additional guide in order for them to eventually get it.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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