Lore, FFXI or FFXIV

[Nalien]

I remember avatars having a developed lore, and they had stories explaining how they turned to be celestial avatars, so I agree with this. FFXIV's feel somewhat shallow, most of them.

I think the Avatars had more gravity behind them... They were old gods, somewhat similar to Zodiark I guess, that had to be kept in slumber for the same reason we don't want Zodiark revived, they'd want to return the world to how it was and that's bad for reasons... Except, if the short stories they all had are to be believed, Altana took measure to invest them in Vana'diel by merging them with mortals, who were the subject of the short stories. That was a lot more interesting than "lawl, aetherial god like beings", at least so far since Primal mythology really hasn't been fleshed out much. More so when you get to Alexander and Odin... I was convinced ToAU was essentially going to an expansion telling the story of Alexander and Odin getting the same treatment the elemental six got in their short stories... The entire expansion played out like one of those short stories... All the way though Wings of the Goddess, I was expecting Treasure (since there was more overlap with expansions in XI) to conclude with Altana merging Odin and Luzaf, Alexander and Razfahd... Instead Odin pops up and is responsible for the Shadow Lord? Meh... Dread to think where they went with RoV...