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  1. #91
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Everyone here knows that Samurai, if we get it, is almost certainly not going to be a tank right?
    Considering Samurai in every other FF game has been mostly a class focused on high DPS either through raw stats or counter attacks this comment isn't amounting to much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Considering Samurai in every other FF game has been mostly a class focused on high DPS either through raw stats or counter attacks this comment isn't amounting to much.
    Except that I'm pretty sure that they have said multiple times, in multiple interviews, that Samurai would be a sword-based DPS class.
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  3. #93
    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Until making samurai just like arcanist class. splitting at level 30 into tank or dps. i would actually be overexcited to have 2 katana classes rather than just one. But Yuni is Katana/two-handed Freak, so it will never happen. i quess SE would say: "too much classes to balance". And i understand them. its hard to balance basic Warrior-Mage-Archer pattern type games, not to speak of whole expansion.
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  4. #94
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpec07 View Post
    Except that I'm pretty sure that they have said multiple times, in multiple interviews, that Samurai would be a sword-based DPS class.
    They said it could go either way. But as always the Samurai was always a Sword based DPS class ergo true to form. Will Samurai have Bushido skills is the main question here.
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    Tanathya's Avatar
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    Selena Schwarz
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    They said it could go either way. But as always the Samurai was always a Sword based DPS class ergo true to form. Will Samurai have Bushido skills is the main question here.
    Honestly, this "always was tank or dd" thing isn't true for any jobs. As I, and many others, have said, tanking never really existed. Some were more suited to get hit, which were most melees to be honest, but they had no skills to divert enemies' attacks other than maybe Cover and Provoke, and maybe Celes' Runic.
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  6. #96
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Honestly, this "always was tank or dd" thing isn't true for any jobs. As I, and many others, have said, tanking never really existed. Some were more suited to get hit, which were most melees to be honest, but they had no skills to divert enemies' attacks other than maybe Cover and Provoke, and maybe Celes' Runic.
    Personally all the combat classes do damage so in that sense they are all DPS classes. They just have this archaic trinity system they pulled from other MMO's primarily WoW and feel forced to basically design a 3 tier system of Tank, Damage Dealer, Healer.

    What weapon a class has is pointless if it's the weaponskills, traits and abilities that matter. Stats matter too but they don't seem to want us to build any form of status/elemental resistance. Which honestly is ridiculous.
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  7. #97
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Personally all the combat classes do damage so in that sense they are all DPS classes. They just have this archaic trinity system they pulled from other MMO's primarily WoW and feel forced to basically design a 3 tier system of Tank, Damage Dealer, Healer.

    What weapon a class has is pointless if it's the weaponskills, traits and abilities that matter. Stats matter too but they don't seem to want us to build any form of status/elemental resistance. Which honestly is ridiculous.
    It's not that they're DDs, they're just jobs. Technically, every job here is a DD as well, since they all deal damage. I just hope that, since they made DRK a tank, SAM isn't one too.
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  8. #98
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    It's not that they're DDs, they're just jobs. Technically, every job here is a DD as well, since they all deal damage. I just hope that, since they made DRK a tank, SAM isn't one too.
    All depends what happens with Red Mage and Samurai. Is Red Mage going to be DPS, Healer or even Tank? Samurai will either be a Tank or DPS most likely.

    Red Mage has always been I can do everything but does not excel at anything. So who knows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    All depends what happens with Red Mage and Samurai. Is Red Mage going to be DPS, Healer or even Tank? Samurai will either be a Tank or DPS most likely.

    Red Mage has always been I can do everything but does not excel at anything. So who knows.
    Which is exactly why I'd make it a tank. Make it a healer and it already excels at healing, make it a DD and it will excel at dealing damage. As a tank it'll be able to heal, deal damage with both spells and sword, and excel at nothing, while tanking. Before someone jumps in that it would excel at tanking, again, nothing was ever a tank. Much less a DRK, but not gonna start that over again lol.
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Considering Samurai in every other FF game has been mostly a class focused on high DPS either through raw stats or counter attacks this comment isn't amounting to much.
    Uh, almost every post on these forums remotely to do with a samurai job right now is assuming its going to be a tank. I just don't want any more drk-style butthurt where people expect a job to be x and se decides to make it y and people qq about it forever.
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