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    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Red Mage as Tank? What? WHAT? ya know, it doesnt soudn like it, but original Red Mage coudnt wear anything heavier than chainmails.
    Ok, he could use Broadswords and such, but shields, rather than warrior, onl buckler. So Red Mage as tank is like DRG as healer.

    Please keep some concepts within some realistic patterns. :P

    "Am i black mage? Am i white mage? WRONG! i am plain damn useless!" ~Red Wizard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuni_Queen View Post
    Red Mage as Tank? What? WHAT? ya know, it doesnt soudn like it, but original Red Mage coudnt wear anything heavier than chainmails.
    Ok, he could use Broadswords and such, but shields, rather than warrior, onl buckler. So Red Mage as tank is like DRG as healer.

    Please keep some concepts within some realistic patterns. :P

    "Am i black mage? Am i white mage? WRONG! i am plain damn useless!" ~Red Wizard
    Or a DRK as a tank. Oh, wait. But yeah, other than that, they can work around the fact that RDM has protective magic. How about we think outside the box for a change? 3 heavy-armored tanks are enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Or a DRK as a tank. Oh, wait. But yeah, other than that, they can work around the fact that RDM has protective magic. How about we think outside the box for a change? 3 heavy-armored tanks are enough.
    Can't think outside the box if the devs basically want jobs to be contained in 3 different boxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Can't think outside the box if the devs basically want jobs to be contained in 3 different boxes.
    I was referring to the community. RDM has some powerful protective magic. Meh, I'll call it a day here probably.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    I was referring to the community. RDM has some powerful protective magic. Meh, I'll call it a day here probably.
    Personally I'd love to see a Red Mage buffing our Elemental Resistances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Can't think outside the box if the devs basically want jobs to be contained in 3 different boxes.
    This, honestly. Presently a tank is (1) higher (m)Defense, (2) % mitigation CDs, (3) enmity-modded skills, and (4) a tank stance, with a less crucial side of resource and resource builders (mana/stacks), and where GLD is leveled to 22 or higher. The goal could be accomplished in far more ways than just an arsenal of CDs (Inner Beast, etc.), and yet I pretty well doubt this fairly exact design will change without some underlying changes in design philosophy across the game.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 03-23-2016 at 02:34 PM.

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    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    and yet I pretty well doubt this fairly exact design will change without some underlying changes in design philosophy across the game.
    ^ this. Because changing fundaments of how the game's balance (or simply role system) is currently working would make mess greater than you think it would. Honesty, i don't believe, that nobody would whine: "Booo! RDM-tank unplayable!" "I can't get used to running around to live, please turn sprint into TP free skill"

    Tank has full plate armor, casters/agile-oriented dps wear rags, slow burst-dmg type dps like DRG wear semi-plate armors.

    It's Final Fantasy, not TERA or WoW. Don't expect Mages-tanks in sexy robes, showing off, casting (Red mage without casting? or casting time MAX 2 sec, so you won't get interrupted?) powerful spells from 3 yalms distance to hold aggro and recieve dmg lower than semi-plated samurai as dps around thinking "maybe i should just become a gardener..."

    You have glamour. And its enough.
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    Player Yuni_Queen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanathya View Post
    Or a DRK as a tank. Oh, wait. But yeah, other than that, they can work around the fact that RDM has protective magic. How about we think outside the box for a change? 3 heavy-armored tanks are enough.
    Ok then. then in your opinion Red Mage as Tank should have all weaponskills casting some kind of 90% dmg reduction buff, so he won't wipe to basic boss' skill? ya know, did you try tanking Ifrit Ex as SMN unsychned? Try it. despite the fact there is 100 item level difference, you will die in 5 hits. and Ifrit wasnt a tanking challenge. Tanks have more defence for some reason. Not to make it look cool.

    THINK OUTSIDE OF THE BOX? i asked for DRG healer >.> Do i ask for too much?

    "DRK as a tank. Oh wait"- i totally agree. something that has "knight" in class name sounds like a good guy caster with magic stick and pointy hat.

    /huh
    Tana-chan please...
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    Eos tank 4.0
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Eos tank 4.0
    Nah just buff Titan Egi. The perfect tank.
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