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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
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    I know plenty of people that play from Asian regions, hell it makes up at least half of the English population on Tonberry. I believe even some Chinese players play on our version, but I can't say if it's large amount there. SE isn't going to do anything that is going to make them lose money, and blocking regions will make them quite a bit of subscribers I'd assume. Besides that, I'm 99% sure TERA only has IP blocked regions due to licenses in those regions that they weren't able to secure as it is with almost all KR MMORPGs.
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    Look it's not going to work for the simple fact that RMT are not bored internet trolls that give up when new hurdles are put up. This is a job for them, they are going to clock in cause not doing so means they don't get a pay check. Having things like lights, food, water, and a roof over your head are far more powerful motivators than anything SE or you can ever think of to make them stop.

    Region locking will only effect the legit players who play on servers outside their region, and at best will buy you 2 weeks without RMT spam before they get all their ducks in a row and come back just as hard as before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nagrom View Post
    Look it's not going to work for the simple fact that RMT are not bored internet trolls that give up when new hurdles are put up. This is a job for them, they are going to clock in cause not doing so means they don't get a pay check. Having things like lights, food, water, and a roof over your head are far more powerful motivators than anything SE or you can ever think of to make them stop.

    Region locking will only effect the legit players who play on servers outside their region, and at best will buy you 2 weeks without RMT spam before they get all their ducks in a row and come back just as hard as before.
    But if we got the RMTers thrown in jail, would that stop them?
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    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    But if we got the RMTers thrown in jail, would that stop them?
    How is region locking going to get them thrown in jail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WinterLuna View Post
    How is region locking going to get them thrown in jail?
    I wasn't suggesting region locking would get them thrown in jail. That would require the magic of SE lawyers (and those guys are fierce from what I'm told, i.e. you get on the wrong side of them and you're going bankrupt, guaranteed). I think we need that lawyer magic though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I wasn't suggesting region locking would get them thrown in jail. That would require the magic of SE lawyers (and those guys are fierce from what I'm told, i.e. you get on the wrong side of them and you're going bankrupt, guaranteed). I think we need that lawyer magic though.
    Ahh, my bad. Lawyer magic would be great though :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I wasn't suggesting region locking would get them thrown in jail. That would require the magic of SE lawyers (and those guys are fierce from what I'm told, i.e. you get on the wrong side of them and you're going bankrupt, guaranteed). I think we need that lawyer magic though.
    It's not by chance that many rmt operations are based out of China and Russia, it's cause the laws allow them to operate there and leave very little legal recourse through civil action against them. That's if said entity even has an actual place of business and isn't just a name on a spread sheet that can be deleted and renamed on a whim as soon as said suit is filed. It's kinda like how some American businesses have their HQ listed on some offshore island, there is no building to see if you go... maybe a mailbox and a coconut.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorful View Post
    Besides that, I'm 99% sure TERA only has IP blocked regions due to licenses in those regions that they weren't able to secure as it is with almost all KR MMORPGs.
    Then you'd be completely wrong, here is the reason for the IP block according to TERA's own website:

    En Masse will block IPs based on region. Asia, Africa, and the Middle East are included on the block list. While we appreciate that there are players in these regions who would enjoy playing on En Masse servers, it's unfortunate that the vast majority of Internet traffic we see from these regions are from cyber-criminals relating to account theft, gold-farming and other hacking behavior.
    http://support.enmasse.com/tera/will...ased-on-region

    Quote Originally Posted by Myrhn View Post
    You just prove my point. TERA have the block and RMT still exist.
    Sure, there the exceptionally rare RMT that pops up, however, it is almost non-existent because of the IP block above, in my time playing TERA (roughly two years) I saw exactly one RMT that managed to get through and they were gone within minutes and never came back. That's significantly better than the current situation this game has.,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Then you'd be completely wrong, here is the reason for the IP block according to TERA's own website:



    http://support.enmasse.com/tera/will...ased-on-region
    While that may be their given reason, they are under contractual obligation to block quite a few regions as they don't hold the license. GameForge in Europe, Hangame in South Korea (which is/has switched to a new publisher), En Masse in North America & The Oceanic, MangoT5 in Taiwan and China, and so on. More than likely that reason is a cover up, similar to Tree of Saviour and their month long early access to "prevent botting". Did a bit more Googling, and apparently they have the option to sell subscription for gold similar to WoW's, Eve's and Runescape's system? If that's the case, then that's why there's far less RMT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    Sure, there the exceptionally rare RMT that pops up, however, it is almost non-existent because of the IP block above, in my time playing TERA (roughly a year) I saw exactly one RMT that managed to get through and they were gone within minutes and never came back. That's significantly better than the current situation this game has.,
    Most people on FFXIV are not willing to sacrifice playing with their friends and their server for the sake of stopping RMT's when they can simply turn on /busy or block /tells and remove the problem for themselves.

    I know I would personally quit the game if I no longer could play with my boyfriend for the sake of not getting spam.
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    Last edited by WinterLuna; 03-20-2016 at 06:14 AM.