Tri-bind

[StouterTaru]

Just... why? It is now 6 seconds. yet sleep stands at 15. both are essentially the same thing, both have cast times, stops movement, the only down side to Tri-bind is it doesn't stop casting. WHICH SLEEP DOES!! so why is one nerfed and the other (blackmage not only has a cast-able but also instant OGC) left untouched.

It was way too powerful, with it's insanely high AoE potency of 30 and near instant cast time of 3 seconds. AND it also binds.

[neoxdeciple]

So i've been testing SMN vs BLK, the damage nerf seems fine, for the most part although your still effectively useless between aetherflow stacks unless you can hit a few Ruin III's, black mage is now super potent with fire VI and not being interupted so easly (im not a good tested for BLK but i'll learn XD) That said on topic.

It was way too powerful, with it's insanely high AoE potency of 30 and near instant cast time of 3 seconds. AND it also binds.

If thats your argument id like to take a look at Freeze, because its exactly what you described, WITH 100 potency! and geuss how long it is! 12 sec!

so your argument is invalid and pushed my point further. not only is Sleep over powered in comparison to bind but black mage also has a 12 sec bind when summoner has a 6 second bind.

so lets look at which skills each class has in comparison:

SMN
Tri-bind: cast 2.5s/ potency 30/ effect: Bind 6s ranged attack. small Aoe
Ice II cast 2.0/ potency 50/ effect: bind 8s close range aoe

BLK
Ice II cast 2.0/ potency 50/ effect: bind 8s close range aoe
Freeze cast 3.0/ potency 100/ effect: bind 12s LARGE ranged Aoe
Sleep cast 2.5/ potency 0/ effect: Sleep 15s long range Aoe
NW cast instant/ 0/ effect: sleep 10s (upgrade 15s) Long range Aoe

so if im to take these skills into consideration and look at how long i could potentially cc someone (taking resistance build into account) forgoing purify and such. using longest potency bind/sleep.

SMN: 3x ice II = 14s
BLK 3x sleep = 25s 3x freeze = 21 = 46s

and if you want to ague the point further on damage with this spell rotation for each class the total potency of their cc rotation is:

SMN 150
BLK 300

so can anyone see how the change wasnt fair in the slightest? and both classes have access to swift so you cant use that as an excuse. :P

[StouterTaru]

If thats your argument id like to take a look at Freeze, because its exactly what you described, WITH 100 potency! and geuss how long it is! 12 sec!

That wasn't my argument, that was a joke. But if you want to compare SMN vs BLM in PvP, look at instant cast damage spells/abilities, and then tell me SMN needs to create distance as much as BLM.