Is dpsing and a healer becoming the standard norm!

[AngelicSence]

Like I've said before, no one wants DPS to get good, ever. Otherwise, people would actually support DPS having actual responsibilities. As it stands now, DPS jobs are more often an afterthought in any composition then something people want around.

So silly.. Healer DPS only go down everytime, especially in new expansion, while DPS jobs gain more and more power. In patch 3.2: All DPS gained additional power all thanks to melding mechanic, and healers now require accuracy to actually land a spell. Those new changes were a nerf to all healer DPS. Now, Lv60 dungeons are easy, especially new ones - very predictable and healers can pretty much spend 80% of their MP for DPS purposes. Try playing a healer like real DPS, you will fail.. MP runs out = long wait and monsters have 70% HP. Now, how about healing? If you don't, you fail too.

[Seoulstar]

I'm fairly sure Slappah meant "norm for forever in this game", not in general ^^;

Ah..well a thousand pardons.

[Tint]

as mentioned previously, I did a sample at one of the two newest dungeons. I cast 1 physick the entire dungeon and adlos only between pulls. Other than that Eos solo healed it all and the tank never hit half health.

I then went to Aetherochemical Facility and had to heal quite a bit more.


I could, theoretically, just auto follow tank and let Eos do her work while I go make dinner or something I guess.

are you trying to defend this poor game design? yes, at the moment healing is not really rquired. and that's BAD game design in a game with a trinity. as a healer i want something to HEAL, not dpsing 99% of the time.

it's like square has forgotten to built content with healers in mind...

[MomomiMomi]

are you trying to defend this poor game design? yes, at the moment healing is not really rquired. and that's BAD game design in a game with a trinity. as a healer i want something to HEAL, not dpsing 99% of the time.

it's like square has forgotten to built content with healers in mind...

They do. It's just not in the dungeons.

[Thunda_Cat_SMASH]

Try playing a healer like real DPS, you will fail.. MP runs out = long wait and monsters have 70% HP. Now, how about healing? If you don't, you fail too.

Try again. That's pretty much what I'm expected to do 24/7, even in top end raids. I'm much more likely to get yelled at by my co-healer if I step out of CS for a split second to use an Adlo+Deployment before a raid wide hit or a quick Indomitability.

And honestly, even as a white mage or an Astrologian, MP management is a complete joke. With just my natural MP regen ticks I can keep the tank alive with a regen and a basic cure after unloading everything into DPS with 10-15 casts, or more if I decide to Shroud for even more DPS.

No offense, but you make it sound like healer DPS is such a disaster, it killing this game and entire player base.

People in this very thread are endorsing kicking healers for spending more than a GCD out of cleric stance regardess of the situation... sounds like killing to me, personally.

[AngelicSence]

Try again. That's pretty much what I'm expected to do 24/7, even in top end raids. I'm much more likely to get yelled at by my co-healer if I step out of CS for a split second to use an Adlo+Deployment before a raid wide hit or a quick Indomitability.

It seem like you making those things up as you go. I know you have hatred towards healer DPS. Even if it's true and you get yelled by co-healer for performing party saving/assist move, you then need to team up with smart people and not stupid. No offense, but you make it sound like healer DPS is such a disaster, it killing this game and entire player base. Not true, you are just over thinking. If you are in a position to defend yourself, you have to be strong and understand that whoever yell at you for what you said they would, it's just stupid and not worth your time.

[Tint]

They do. It's just not in the dungeons.

then probably they should remove the healer spot from duty finder for dungeons

[cgbspender]

It seem like you making those things up as you go. I know you have hatred towards healer DPS. Even if it's true and you get yelled by co-healer for performing party saving/assist move, you then need to team up with smart people and not stupid. No offense, but you make it sound like healer DPS is such a disaster, it killing this game and entire player base. Not true, you are just over thinking. If you are in a position to defend yourself, you have to be strong and understand that whoever yell at you for what you said they would, it's just stupid and not worth your time.

In fact, I read his post entirely differently as you did ?

[randysquirrel]

the tanks had high migration...migrate more damage

Mitigate

/char

[Zojha]

They do. It's just not in the dungeons.

It's in the dungeons as well, but healing is just plain way too powerful. You'll likely fail having no healer at all, but Selene/Eos/Regen typically suffices.

And in raids, solo healing is the norm because unless people fail mechanics left and right, one healer tends to suffice. Even in EX and Savage content, you can apparently often spare the healing power and mana to get some more damage in instead.

At this point, we could probably cut the potencies of every healing spell in half and most content would still be easily clearable >_>