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  1. #121
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    AngelicSence's Avatar
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    Arch Ultia
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    Zalera
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    I feel the reason S-E went this route for healer DPS is to give healer's the option to choose how they wish to play their healer. You want to DPS more? Meld some Accuracy and eat some food and let it rock! Want to heal more than naught? Focus your melds on healing augmenting melds.
    Yes, that's what they said actually. But that isn't an issue. Healers will never be able to compete with any DPS class. And you will not be DPSing in high raid content as regularly. They simply scratching healer's DPS from the top, so that while other jobs can slot determination/critical material, healers will remain the same by slotting ACC. Before this patch: Healer DPS << Damage dealer DPS. After this patch: Healer DPS <<<< Damage dealer DPS. It's just a nerf because they can't directly nerf spells like Holy anymore. That would make healer leveling up process even slower. That's the real reason behind this all changes :/
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  2. #122
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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    I think the gap between DD and healers in terms of damage has never been so small as it is currently. (and I don't even talk about Holy)

    To come back to the accuracy matter : just had a run in Lost city HM with my 444 accuracy + baked pipira (+18 acc) > ended at 7% miss. A rough guess would give Accuracy at about 475/480 for a 100% hit ?
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  3. #123
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    Healers have always been able to outdps non caster DPS when it comes to AoE with minimal effort. I don't see anything wrong with healers needing to slot a DPS stat if they so desire to DPS, since at least then they'll be putting at least a little effort into earning such disgustingly massive numbers. Personally, if healers were actually intended to DPS, I'd imagine CS would actually have an accuracy buff baked in, however small.
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  4. #124
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    Kerrigen's Avatar
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    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by cgbspender View Post
    I think the gap between DD and healers in terms of damage has never been so small as it is currently. (and I don't even talk about Holy)

    To come back to the accuracy matter : just had a run in Lost city HM with my 444 accuracy + baked pipira (+18 acc) > ended at 7% miss. A rough guess would give Accuracy at about 475/480 for a 100% hit ?
    You need to check whether your misses occurred while blinded by the magic pots over there. The Blind effect is rather potent.
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  5. #125
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    Voltron_HD's Avatar
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    Kuro Moon
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Not dpsing is NOT an option. My hope is that in a future patch they will put an accuracy buff while in clerics. If not I will have to have two sets of identical gear with different melds. One for Accuracy when not running healing intensive content and the other Det/Crit combo for Healing intensive content.
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  6. #126
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrigen View Post
    You need to check whether your misses occurred while blinded by the magic pots over there. The Blind effect is rather potent.
    To add to that, a Bard can skew testing as well, due to Rain of Death. Always make sure to seperate runs that have a Bard and ones that don't if you're gathering data.

    Anyway, I've been having about a 5% miss rate as a White Mage in Expert dungeons (without any Bards present) at 438 accuracy. Sephirot Ex was somewhat meaner with 13% miss rate.
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  7. #127
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    Deathgiver's Avatar
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    Krystalan Deathgiver
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    To add to that, a Bard can skew testing as well, due to Rain of Death. Always make sure to seperate runs that have a Bard and ones that don't if you're gathering data.

    Anyway, I've been having about a 5% miss rate as a White Mage in Expert dungeons (without any Bards present) at 438 accuracy. Sephirot Ex was somewhat meaner with 13% miss rate.
    Either I've been lucky, or you've been unlucky, I was hitting 97% accuracy without RoD buff in Seph Ex. at 426 acc on over 300 casts last time I checked.
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  8. #128
    Player
    Kerrigen's Avatar
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    Ebi Frye
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 80
    from everything I've read Accuracy caps for Sephirot Extreme are extremely similar if not identical to A4s, so around 540 for 100% hit rate as a caster. So yeah, you've mostly likely been extremely lucky.
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  9. #129
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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Deathgiver View Post
    Either I've been lucky, or you've been unlucky, I was hitting 97% accuracy without RoD buff in Seph Ex. at 426 acc on over 300 casts last time I checked.
    I suppose time will tell. Yesterday was the first night I put in any serious effort into the fight.

    Then again, I'm the kind of guy who gets to witness failed Bulwarks on tank busters all the time (Sheltron that Chesed already !/()¤"()¤&!")(&/¤). <.<
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    Last edited by Raminax; 03-12-2016 at 01:40 AM.

  10. #130
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
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    Marauder Lv 60
    I think Seph EX is around 500 acc for casters. I had 1 miss at 490 and haven't had any at 507.

    So yeah they were pretty lucky because 426 should be around 92%
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