Samurai & Red Mage cross skills

[Jhett_Magnum]

So we all know that these classes are coming, but what cross skills should they take?

I think if Samurai were to be a tank
GLA/ROG
Or DPS
PUG/ROG

Red Mage is up in the air as to what role(s) they could play.
Healer: CNJ/THM
DPS: PUG/ACN
Tank: GLA/THM

So what are some of your predictions?

[Ashelia_Ferron]

I don't think they would give anyone ROG for cross class.

LNC is required. Invigorate+B4B is too invaluable

[AlphaFox]

I may be shunned for this but I kinda hope Red Mage is forced from Blackmage and Whitemage but in being able to use the skills such as Fire 1, Aero 1, Stone 1(maybe even 2) to weave in and use alongside as part of their core skills. Maybe have them take a step from crafters and having 10 empty cross-skill slots to basically "build" our Redmage.

[Chasely]

I, personally, hope SAM is a damage job. DRK fills the two-handed sword wielding tank quota. Red Mage will likely be a healer with lots of DoTs and a bit of extra survivability.

[abzoluut]

I sincerely hope they destroy 1.0's remnants and just make new jobs. All jobs could have variants of the cross-skills they use now.

Ninja back in 2.4 got a new base class which does not allow other jobs to use cross-skills from. In 3.0 new jobs did not even have a base class. Did SE start to see the limitations the current system gives? I think so.

The only thing I can think of for sticking with how it is now, is to let people have a taste of another class. However, again, I think SE started to see the limits the current system come with, hence 2.4 and 3.0's choices.

[Docent]

They don't want to make SAM a tank, so they'll likely be PGL + LNC for cross-class, assuming they keep the system as is.

Redmage, I wish they would actually let you pick spells from WHM and BLM, based on what you plan to do. Give them buffs from their core skills to increase damage / reduce mana cost / casting time when they flail their sword, so they can weave instant-cast, powerful/free Fire III between melee hits, etc. Essentially, I wish they'd inspire themselves from Enhancement Shaman in WoW.

[Dualgunner]

I wonder if a DPS version of Samurai would share armor class with Dragoon.

[Ayuhra]

Red Mage would be very interesting to see, assuming they can balance the class since the class shtick has always been "Jack-of-all-trades, master of none".

My own unpopular opinion is I would love to see Red Mage as a support class. It wouldn't be able to deal a whole lot of damage or do a whole lot of healing but having one would boost the group. Unfortunately I know it will never happen. The Bard was supposed to fulfill a similar roll but they changed that in Heavensward to make them more of a pure DPS.

[FoxyAreku]

Samurai: Invigorate, B4B, Internal Release, Mantra, optional
Red Mage: Swiftcast, Raging Strikes, rest doesn't matter (unless it turns out to be a healer for some reason, then add protect, stoneskin, and cleric instead of raging.)

SE is predictable and doesn't take advantage of unique cross class opportunities at all so the sad thing is I'm probably exactly right with this.

[Jhett_Magnum]

I sincerely hope they destroy 1.0's remnamt and just make new jobs. All jobs could have variants of the cross-skills they use now.

The idea behind cross class is that they want you to try different jobs.
Furthermore, cross skills have been a trademark for final fantasy so I don't see them getting rid of it....but a revamp.

I do agree about no more base classes, because eventually leveling from 1 to xx will be tedious.