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    Player Jhett_Magnum's Avatar
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    Character
    Zanku Hado
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70

    Samurai & Red Mage cross skills

    So we all know that these classes are coming, but what cross skills should they take?

    I think if Samurai were to be a tank
    GLA/ROG
    Or DPS
    PUG/ROG

    Red Mage is up in the air as to what role(s) they could play.
    Healer: CNJ/THM
    DPS: PUG/ACN
    Tank: GLA/THM

    So what are some of your predictions?
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    Ashelia_Ferron's Avatar
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    Ashelia Ferron
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    Siren
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    I don't think they would give anyone ROG for cross class.

    LNC is required. Invigorate+B4B is too invaluable
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    Eul's Avatar
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    Knot Destroyer
    World
    Asura
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron View Post
    I don't think they would give anyone ROG for cross class.
    Won't at least they put Mutilation as cross class skill? Since Archer's Venomous Bite or Marauder's Fracture can cross class.
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    Rena Ryuugu
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I may be shunned for this but I kinda hope Red Mage is forced from Blackmage and Whitemage but in being able to use the skills such as Fire 1, Aero 1, Stone 1(maybe even 2) to weave in and use alongside as part of their core skills. Maybe have them take a step from crafters and having 10 empty cross-skill slots to basically "build" our Redmage.
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    Player Kaiser-Ace's Avatar
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    Kai Magnus
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I don't know about what they could be, but I know what I'd like to see.

    Red Mage (Healer)

    Weapon/Armor: Lightsaber And Pistol w/ Leather/Light Armor

    Unique Gimmick: En-Spell Buffs
    Cross Skills Thaumaturge (Swift Cast, Sleep, Aetherial Manipulation, Surecast, Thunder) and Conjuror (Stone Skin, Protect, Cleric Stance, Aero)

    Focuses on unique En-Buffs and Debuffs to add utility and survivability to group as well as HoTs and strong heals to keep party alive. Auto Attack with Pistol from a distance and use Saber for "Sword Magic" skills learned via job quests. (Is not a melee fighter)

    Samurai (Dps)
    Weapon/Armor: Katana and Wakizashi (Like Miyamoto Musashi is said to have used), Light and Scale Armor (Maiming raid gear like DRG)

    Unique Gimmick: Bushido

    Focuses on fast and powerful attacks , has longer cools downs but uses timing and positionals to deal devastating burst damage. Bushido oGCD Skills learned via job quests can be chained together for combos that leave the opponent with various debuffs at the cost of increased cooldown times.

    Cross Skills Lancer (Invigorate, Feint, Blood for Blood, Keen Flurry, Life Surge) and Pugilist (Second Wind, Feather Foot, Internal Release, Mantra)

    And no, I do not want to see Great Katanas on Samurai. Especially not if they are going to be DPS. If the Devfs INSIST on making Samurai as DPS class then the least they can do is make them Dual Wield like Musashi. If they want Great Katanas then make them a tank class.
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    Chasely's Avatar
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    Yawn Alexander
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    I, personally, hope SAM is a damage job. DRK fills the two-handed sword wielding tank quota. Red Mage will likely be a healer with lots of DoTs and a bit of extra survivability.
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    Tanathya's Avatar
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    Character
    Selena Schwarz
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Chasely View Post
    I, personally, hope SAM is a damage job. DRK fills the two-handed sword wielding tank quota. Red Mage will likely be a healer with lots of DoTs and a bit of extra survivability.
    Yet that's the least likely role it will fill.
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    abzoluut's Avatar
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Odin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    I sincerely hope they destroy 1.0's remnants and just make new jobs. All jobs could have variants of the cross-skills they use now.

    Ninja back in 2.4 got a new base class which does not allow other jobs to use cross-skills from. In 3.0 new jobs did not even have a base class. Did SE start to see the limitations the current system gives? I think so.

    The only thing I can think of for sticking with how it is now, is to let people have a taste of another class. However, again, I think SE started to see the limits the current system come with, hence 2.4 and 3.0's choices.
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    Last edited by abzoluut; 05-24-2017 at 04:11 PM.

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    Docent's Avatar
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    Character
    Cloe Delisle
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 60
    They don't want to make SAM a tank, so they'll likely be PGL + LNC for cross-class, assuming they keep the system as is.

    Redmage, I wish they would actually let you pick spells from WHM and BLM, based on what you plan to do. Give them buffs from their core skills to increase damage / reduce mana cost / casting time when they flail their sword, so they can weave instant-cast, powerful/free Fire III between melee hits, etc. Essentially, I wish they'd inspire themselves from Enhancement Shaman in WoW.
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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    I wonder if a DPS version of Samurai would share armor class with Dragoon.
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