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    Quote Originally Posted by Graci View Post
    I understand that you guys hate us, but could you at least wait until 24s to spawn camp us every match, so that you're at least limiting the amount of innocent Flames whose nights you're ruining?
    :< there'd only be 2 of us of the usual behemoth "premade" (we're not XD) but you would spawn camp us anyway in the past, just coz </3 A bunch of innocent adders have suffered before... Now we are having revenge!

    We don't hate you guys btw :P
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    Oh, and are you his wife? I feel like you guys are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    :< there'd only be 2 of us of the usual behemoth "premade" (we're not XD) but you would spawn camp us anyway in the past, just coz </3 A bunch of innocent adders have suffered before... Now we are having revenge!
    We've never sat in your spawn for the majority of a 72, and relentlessly attack you all match. As for spawn camping, we've never done it to anyone just because we don't like them. I've never done anything disrespectful to anyone here in game (I don't even taunt people) or on forums, so I just don't know where all the animosity is coming from. Our team is aggressive and plays for kills a lot, but we don't begrudge against other GCs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graci View Post
    I just don't know where all the animosity is coming from. Our team is aggressive and plays for kills a lot, but we don't begrudge against other GCs.
    That implies that you have been working as a team. It's not really a team if you only heal one person in it. Think of this as healers honor as to why I am going along with targeting Indra and you down. (The behemoths aren't even really targeting the others, just you two It's the rest of adders that follow us that have been killing the innocent lives that you could save if you healed others for a change)

    (we have had people on our server on flames complaining that if Indra was in the FL, they'd suddenly get zero heals, just because he was there. If he wasn't in the FL then they'd get heals. That's just sad. Really sad.)

    You could have other DPS that are really good, but you never see them do good because they don't get the heals Indra does. It's sad :< everyone deserves a chance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graci View Post
    We've never sat in your spawn for the majority of a 72, and relentlessly attack you all match.
    You guys totally have, it has made finally getting my ADS hard. :<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graci View Post
    I've never done anything disrespectful to anyone here in game (I don't even taunt people) or on forums, so I just don't know where all the animosity is coming from.
    I personally do not have any animosity towards you, I just simply noted an observation in that the best way to kill Indra is to kill you because you are the backbone behind his double digit kill streaks. This is why I personally would choose to attack you rather than him, however with no premade backing me up its incredibly risky for me to do this so I'm not able to very much at all. The way the behemoth adder group has exploited this bit of info leads me to believe my observation was not far off though. I did not mean to paint a target on your head though which is why I never mentioned your name in my post. I also never claimed you dont heal the other lesser known members in your premade party, otherwise there would be no point in even joining such a premade for those guys, but its disingenuous to claim you place as much emphasis in keeping them alive as you do him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    The way the behemoth adder group has exploited this bit of info leads me to believe my observation was not far off though. I did not mean to paint a target on your head though which is why I never mentioned your name in my post..
    Dw man, it wasn't you that clued us into beating on Indra's healer, we had known this for a while before you mentioned it in the forums, so don't feel guilty :P She painted a target on her own head when Flames behemoths were complaining about getting no heals while Indra got all the heals. Their words. :P
    I also had the same target over my head all last week (I saw you emoting me Indra! :P) so I wanted some revenge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Dw man, it wasn't you that clued us into beating on Indra's healer, we had known this for a while before you mentioned it in the forums, so don't feel guilty :P She painted a target on her own head when Flames behemoths were complaining about getting no heals while Indra got all the heals. Their words. :P
    I also had the same target over my head all last week (I saw you emoting me Indra! :P) so I wanted some revenge.
    I only do it because I love you Azora.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitrii View Post
    *snip
    I appreciate your reply, Knives, and for being very civil. Maybe it's just something that I haven't noticed, but it was never something I set out to do. I've actually done the majority of my matches solo/duo queue. Tunnel healing Indra was never something I consciously decided on doing originally; our group would typically run with 2 DPS and 2 healers (we only had 4 members until recently) and I'd end up watching Indra while my co-healer would watch our other DPS. We'd often both even overly focus on Indra at times, which was totally unfair to our other DPS. He'd progressively get more kills and better stats and it became an even greater challenge to preserve his KDR. At that point, I guess it spiraled out of control and maybe I was focusing on him too much, at the expense of our other players. I can concede that it's likely what happened, but I never meant to ignore anyone or make anyone angry or anything like that.

    I've had numerous insults thrown at me and a few players posting my stats (the ones that fit their narrative of me, while ignoring the matches where I've had much higher HP healed -- I'd also like to mention that it's a bit harder to heal with 4 cloaked ninjas following me for most of the match and coordinating double Raw Destructions on me!) to shame me in this thread. It was said by these players that there was no spite or malice against me, but it sure felt like it last night. This kind of behavior does suggest to me that my focusing on Indra must have been pretty egregious, but I do maintain that I have never healed him exclusively (which you did acknowledge, and I thank you for that). In spite of my apparent prioritization of Indra, we did manage to have 2 other DPS from our group in the top 20 KLR this week; but I suspect that I won't receive any credit for that but will be admonished if those same players die during a match.

    I only joined a premade last month. In hindsight, maybe it was a poor decision. I was much happier being the healer that Anela and Zalestra probably remember me as. If any Flames do feel slighted or neglected because of me, I do apologize. I've been the "everyone" healer for so long, I guess I wanted to try playing the game differently and see what kind of stats we could pull off together. It's stupid and shallow, but I fell into the stat-chasing hunt, I think. I didn't realize it would cause such a stir, but sorry again to everyone affected by it -- I truly let a lot of you (especially Aria, whom I've played PvP with for the longest time and deserves way better than me), and myself, down.

    Anyway, I just wanted to expand my thoughts a bit from last night since my initial post was a bit vague. I respect you as a poster and player, Knives, so this wasn't really directed at you, but I just wanted to edit my original post since you're the only one who actually offered me a well reasoned observation of my actions. Thank you.

    Sorry also to everyone that actually wanted to discuss SMNs being overpowered, never meant for this to be derailed so much.
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    Last edited by Graci; 03-09-2016 at 12:51 PM. Reason: Fixed typo and clarification. (again!)