Results 1 to 10 of 159

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Chthonian's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    20
    Character
    Styxx Didymos
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 70
    Yeah but in the end we're not there to deal massive damage. As long as we're keeping hate, and popping our CD's when we have to, our job is done. Str and Vit share what the same 0.45? I've been perfectly fine wearing a crafted Str acc, I still have my allocation points in Str. So just work on your AP getting higher. We're never going to go back to what we once were and it's for a reason. Complaining about a change that was more efficient for our job isn't going to change SE's mind. Even if we're OT's we still do above 1k DPS. If you MT in your group learn the fights, learn when to stance dance and go from there til you can optimize in order to get better DPS. We may not be able to hit 1200 - 1400 anymore, but we still do better damage than the other tanks. So take it with a grain of salt.
    (1)

  2. #2
    Player
    Adire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    1,549
    Character
    Erin Grey
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chthonian View Post
    snip
    Some people, like myself, enjoy pushing ourselves to better than "good enough". We were rewarded in playing above and beyond the requirements with higher dps, i.e. faster runs and everyone winning from it. With that being impossible now, I can at least speak for myself in that tanking bores me now.

    SE's "reason" for this change makes no sense at all to me. It's almost as if they want to punish people who put more effort into playing skillfully. Because I was getting the job done well before with STR and then some, and benefiting my groups with my efforts far more than just limiting myself to only being concerned with eating damage would have done. Now I feel as if SE has forced all tanks to lower their standards and settle for excessive Vit and less damage, whether we want to contribute more or not.
    (5)

  3. #3
    Player
    Kabooa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    4,391
    Character
    Jace Ossura
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Some people, like myself, enjoy pushing ourselves to better than "good enough". We were rewarded in playing above and beyond the requirements with higher dps, i.e. faster runs and everyone winning from it. With that being impossible now, I can at least speak for myself in that tanking bores me now.
    Nothing's stopping you from pushing to be better. Your ceiling got moved, not your floor.
    (9)

  4. #4
    Player
    Adire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    1,549
    Character
    Erin Grey
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Nothing's stopping you from pushing to be better. Your ceiling got moved, not your floor.
    A flat damage nerf is stopping me from pushing to be better, because damage is so pathetic now that I've lost motivation to push for such marginal improvement compared to before. It's an insult to effort.

    What can I do with all this extra vit now? Nothing at all. I can be a good tank, but that's it now. I can't be a good tank and balance it with good damage anymore.
    (4)

  5. #5
    Player
    Syzygian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    735
    Character
    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    A flat damage nerf is stopping me from pushing to be better, because damage is so pathetic now that I've lost motivation to push for such marginal improvement compared to before. It's an insult to effort.

    What can I do with all this extra vit now? Nothing at all. I can be a good tank, but that's it now. I can't be a good tank and balance it with good damage anymore.
    If you believe the damage is pathetic try helping a group meet any of the new DPS checks without your outgoing damage. It won't happen.

    A loss of motivation is your fault, nobody else's. If you're too good to push your tank DPS now that's fine, but that's your choice and nobody is responsible for it.

    And the incoming tank damage has been ramped up so that stuff hits like a bus now and you need almost all of that extra VIT.

    These are all things people have been going over in the forums and reddit for 2 weeks now, just get over it and adapt. That's your job more than anything else.
    (14)

  6. #6
    Player
    Adire's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    1,549
    Character
    Erin Grey
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    ....
    I don't recall blaming anyone else for it?

    But it's not my fault either. Am I supposed to force myself to like these changes? I don't know about you, but I can't just force motivation upon myself.

    But no worries, I will adapt. I'll adapt by not tanking anymore since the new standards bore me. I've never enjoyed being just a meatshield in games. Prior to these changes, tanks could be more than that. Now they can't, and alas, I grow bored with it in this game too.
    (1)
    Last edited by Adire; 03-06-2016 at 10:30 AM.

  7. #7
    Player
    Awful's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    1,277
    Character
    Awful Name
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Adire View Post
    Some people, like myself, enjoy pushing ourselves to better than "good enough". We were rewarded in playing above and beyond the requirements with higher dps, i.e. faster runs and everyone winning from it. With that being impossible now, I can at least speak for myself in that tanking bores me now.
    So what about the people that raided for Gordian gear as a STR tank, pushing content and getting those 210 pieces that never mattered? The fending pieces that fell on the floor week after week, yeah what a GREAT reward that was. I always hated carrying bad DPS because my role was never meant to beat them in damage even now we have people in ilvl 210+ that are still doing 500 DPS tanks can still do more than them.

    As for faster runs that falls upon your DPS my Paladin friend tanking while my friend and I were a drg ilvl 211 and monk ilvl 217 we did Antitower in 15ish minutes we were both pulling over 1.2k+ on boss fights trash didn't take that long as we had a Sch DPSing. The good tanks are going to still tank and push content while the bad tanks are going to sit back and never push themselves as it always has been. Playing skillfully is still a thing in this game for tanks the ceiling is still high you just need to know how to adapt and play with the new meta.

    Maybe tanking has different views for everyone which I understand, for myself however i'm going to keep tanking it's a shame you hung up your sword/shield/axe/greatsword, but that's why we play an MMO to enjoy ourselves rather than be something we don't enjoy.
    (2)
    Last edited by Awful; 03-10-2016 at 07:57 PM.

Tags for this Thread