Rest in peace War dps

[RapBreon]

My understanding is that the gap between tanks and DPS will only increase as more gear is accumulated. Primarily this being due to each stat being worth less - damage wise - for tanks than it was before the adjustment.

If tanks are doing around 3.0 DPS in ilvl 240ish gear (as someone claimed? I'm not sure, but I think they did; I somewhat doubt), the gap between DPS and tanks has widened without a doubt. For comparison, my MNK gained 200dps from 10ilvls alone (from 208 to 217). I imagine a dummy parse for a MNK in pure BiS would be almost 1.8-1.9k. A WAR would be around 1.3k with BiS? I'm not sure though. However, the gap was definitely not that big during 3.0, in absolute nor relative terms.

[Sousoulsu]

My understanding is that the gap between tanks and DPS will only increase as more gear is accumulated. Primarily this being due to each stat being worth less - damage wise - for tanks than it was before the adjustment.

If tanks are doing around 3.0 DPS in ilvl 240ish gear (as someone claimed? I'm not sure, but I think they did; I somewhat doubt), the gap between DPS and tanks has widened without a doubt. For comparison, my MNK gained 200dps from 10ilvls alone (from 208 to 217). I imagine a dummy parse for a MNK in pure BiS would be almost 1.8-1.9k. A WAR would be around 1.3k with BiS? I'm not sure though. However, the gap was definitely not that big during 3.0, in absolute nor relative terms.

This is correct.
It'll be similar to that one MMO about Orcs and Humans fighting that's been out for a decade. Warriors in that game scaled much better with gear than most classes; so in the early parts of an expansion their DPS would be lackluster, but as time went on in the expansion cycle it got astronomically higher.

Gear scaling is fun 'w'

[RapBreon]

This is correct.
It'll be similar to that one MMO about Orcs and Humans fighting that's been out for a decade. Warriors in that game scaled much better with gear than most classes; so in the early parts of an expansion their DPS would be lackluster, but as time went on in the expansion cycle it got astronomically higher.

Gear scaling is fun 'w'

I like it when I understand things gud!

[oph]

Having started to main WAR on this new patch, I may not be as affected as long time WAR mains, but damn those fell cleave crits while on berserker are still delicious to contemplate, somehow overall DPS on WAR feels right and being able to moderately stance swap for fell cleaving and berserker while maintaining safe margin of aggro is still doable and satisfying.

[Sousoulsu]

Having started to main WAR on this new patch, I may not be as affected as long time WAR mains, but damn those fell cleave crits while on berserker are still delicious to contemplate, somehow overall DPS on WAR feels right and being able to moderately stance swap for fell cleaving and berserker while maintaining safe margin of aggro is still doable and satisfying.

Your experience is what people need to remember: The playstyle of shifting smoothly between dealing and mitigating damage. The damage numbers were just lowered, and not even drastically.

[PogueX]

WAR is still more fun to play though. I get bored playing pally with the 1...2...3 combos all day

[Synestra]

WAR is still more fun to play though. I get bored playing pally with the 1...2...3 combos all day

All 3 tanks has 3 combos so if you just do 1.2.3 then you are doing it wrong.

[Iagainsti]

All 3 tanks has 3 combos so if you just do 1.2.3 then you are doing it wrong.

I know what they're referring to, since I ise the same term for pally. Its the least combo oriented of the 3 tanks, so it feels like 1,2,3 zzz half the time.

Pvp though, Paladins are sweet

[Synestra]

Its the least combo oriented of the 3 tanks, so it feels like 1,2,3 zzz half the time.

I dunno as i find DRK even more Zzzz when you are in MP building phase, that is literally good ol 1,2,3 with random ogcd due procs. Not to mention DRK animations feels slow as hell >_>

[Ragology]

Not to mention DRK animations feels slow as hell >_>

I think DRK was animated that way so that the combat would appear as seamless, nonstop sword strokes. Much like how Paladins "stab, wait, stab again" is masked by their frequent blocking (so we can assume the PLD is taking a moment to watch the opponent and counter their blows.) War gets to appear slow because its an axe.