Rest in peace War dps

[Merkava]

So why do you need to stay in tank stance longer as drk and do the 1-2-3 combo over and over?
I main the class and have not had to do this at all in any duty so far. In fact the increase in vit has allowed me to stay out of tanks stance longer rotating cooldowns. DRK imo is by far the easiest tank to hold aggro with so long as you can maintain a basic supply of MP. the class seems exactly the same to me outside of a bit more tp up time and the proportional dps cut across the board. But mechanically ive been playing it exactly the same with no issue.

That was an intentional exageration, I should probably stress that out, a poor choice of words. I haven't really played DRK much (since patch came out tuesday and it's just Thursday) but I was basing myself on comments i've been reading across various topics/forums and my overall understanding of the class. Holding emnity is not really an issue in Tank stance but problems will inevitably arise as, overall, tanks are generating less enmity in tank stance when compared to 3.1 due to the damage nerf.

Tell me this, you have zero problems staying out of tank stance with good DPS against bosses? I'm not even including trash as unleash spam will most likely keep aggro on you even without grit. I'm talking about a 1400+ DPS DRG (with a 2k+ Opener) breathing down your neck as he unleashes a dozen oGCDs on your target during his opener? It's still all the same? Do you find yourself using Blood Weapon and DA just as much in that situation? At least WAR has Uchained + Berserk. DRK has great sustained emnity but very little in the way of burst emnity.

[Syzygian]

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Have you done it in any 8mans? Did you have shadewalker? How long were you staying out of stance? How many PS did you open with? Impossible to know what your vague post means without knowing how you play to begin with.

No one is saying you need to spam 123 and never drop stance. For DRK using the combo more than once or twice per encounter feels like too much.

You deal far less damage now out of stance in relation to your dps so if you're staying out of stance for any considerable period of time (which i find doubtful considering how hard things hit, unless yiur swapping) they will gain on you noticeably faster if your enmity is riding on a pure dps rotation with no PS. Its not even DPS either. Healers in particular are generating a shit ton of enmity with all the aoe healing needed in fights like sephex where everyone is getting hit like a bus the entire time.

[Merkava]

No one is saying you need to spam 123 and never drop stance.

I did say it but, like I mentioned, that was a poor choice of words. I would like to re-stress my point in case that badly worded comment buries the point.

The nerf probably ended up hitting DRK and PLD way harder than it did WAR, thanks to the fact that WAR can generate an insane amount of burst enmity (allowing them to play almost identical to how they did in 3.1). PLD and DRK, on the other hand, end up suffering more in pronlonged fights as their choices are much more limited due to their reduced enmity generation. Heck, I think that DRK might have gotten the bigger shaft as the lower enmity generation means more stance dancing is required (more MP) and every Syphon Strike they can't use is a long term DPS loss (and blood weapon usage being less reliable).

I would have rather seen upward adjustments rather than a global nerf but people are so focus on WAR hate that they seem to fail to notice that things are even worse for them

[Deadwired]

I was really excited about 3.2 changing vit to the new tank dps calculation but i had no idea it was gonna rip our dps appart and cause emnity generation to be such a pain. There isn't really much to say except i sure hope they fix this somehow.

[Sarynth]

Me personally, I just want to see souleater actually heal a decent amount, blood bath not be laughable when cross classed, and a better vit/str = attack power ratio.

[Yasuhiro]

Obligatory for every Warrior Thread

I can see them going through their fellcleave screenshot folders right now

[Chthonian]

Our DPS isn't dead at all. Yeah we lost some numbers while running all Str but it's only shittier with 210 gear. I'm still able to pull off 1000 DPS+ with the 220 gear. I may not have hit another 11k fell cleave with the new changes, but I can still crit for 9000+ which I'm sure with all 240 gear is possible to go back to hitting with those 10k fell cleaves, and if really lucky 11k. Enmity ain't an issue, DPS ain't an issue. People just don't like change. If you honestly NEEDED Str acc to keep aggro before 3.2 you obviously just weren't meant to tank and need to roll another job cause you're bad. While I miss all str as well, we're tanks. If your DPS in your group aren't fulfilling their duties and putting out high damage, then give 'em the boot. (Talking statics obviously). But we are not in any terrible position, we're still in a good one.

[kensatsu]

it's a tank dps nerf, so if the war is hit other tank is hit too.
but it's not harsh and the war still dps a lot.
i don't get the complain, exept for the sake of complaning

[Adire]

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Yeah, but then what happens when we get to content scaled higher, such as higher HP scales?

WAR ends up doing pathetic dps once again. You forget that everyone will be gearing up and that SE will design content accordingly. Tank damage is permanently behind the curve now and will only be somewhat decent in the short time right before higher scaled content comes out, then it's back to square one again. And tanks will always be well behind where they were before in damage contribution now, while HP of bosses will go higher and higher.

SE didn't make this change thinking "We only want to temporarily reduce tank damage until they get better gear, then they'll be back to where they were."

They made the change to permanently and considerably reduce tank damage for content to come. "We want to change how tanking is seen from here on out." This was not a change designed to only apply to this patch's early days, it was a change designed to keep tanks behind the curve and reduce their damage contribution permanently.

[Bjorn_Ironside]

It's almost like you weren't supposed to be tanking in a dps stance. Le Gasp!

i can not like this comment enough.