Humanoid Avian Race?

[Kosmos992k]

Humanoid races are always the most played races, that's a fact but implying there would be no demograph for non-human races is nonsense.

I quite clearly did not say that there would be no players using such a race, I said that the race would be extremely niche oriented and would not justify the investment. Suggesting otherwise is nonsense.

[Kosmos992k]

Every other major MMO has gotten beast races to work in terms of armor. Armor is done with textures and anchor points, it's not a complete remodeling of every piece of gear.

Gotta cry foul here. SE has repeatedly given the reason for the disappearing Miqo'te curves as the difficulty in adjusting gear models. If it's easy to adjust and you can make a less humanoid race with wings, then Miqo'te curves get priority.

[Roegadyn_Bear]

Please explain. All I can think of is that Worgens look badass and Taurens look goofy and are a great inspiration for bad puns. Somehow I don't think that's what you meant.

The Furry Fandom.

Not everyone who plays a Pandaren, Tauren, or Worgen are part of that, of course... but that particular demographic does make up a good chunk of the population that plays them because they do find them to be visually appealing (and a good deal of them even find them to be sexy, whether or not you yourself can see the sex appeal).

[Ayuhra]

Gotta cry foul here. SE has repeatedly given the reason for the disappearing Miqo'te curves as the difficulty in adjusting gear models. If it's easy to adjust and you can make a less humanoid race with wings, then Miqo'te curves get priority.

I don't really know anything about the reasoning for our women not having bums anymore.

If SE does NOT fit armor with anchors then they should consider doing so, it would make their life a lot less annoying. Although it might lead to further clipping issues especially while they figure it out.

I don't work for SE so I don't know how they do it, I just know how many other companies do it.

(But if fem'qote get their butts back then male Elezen need bums too. For uh. Fairness. Yeah.)

The Furry Fandom.

Not everyone who plays a Pandaren, Tauren, or Worgen are part of that, of course... but that particular demographic does make up a good chunk of the population that plays them because they do find them to be visually appealing (and a good deal of them even find them to be sexy, whether or not you yourself can see the sex appeal).

Maybe I am sheltered or ignorant but in my decade of playing WoW most people I know who favor beast races do so because they're something different. Furries are no doubt a thing but enjoying a beast race because it's cool and more visually interesting than human-like character X does not a furry make.

People seem to cry "Furry!" whenever anyone mentions beast races anywhere. (And even if someone IS a Furry goodness who cares? Let them keep on keeping on they're not hurting anyone)

[Kosmos992k]

I don't really know anything about the reasoning for our women not having bums anymore.

If SE does NOT fit armor with anchors then they should consider doing so, it would make their life a lot less annoying. Although it might lead to further clipping issues especially while they figure it out.

I don't work for SE so I don't know how they do it, I just know how many other companies do it.

Oh, I'm not disagreeing with how you say others implement it, and I am certain more than a few people, including myself, have asked similar questions about gear modeling in the past in other topics. However SE chose to implement player character skeletons and skins along with gear models and meshes to maximize movement and minimize clipping, one thing that they are clear on, the reason for the disappearing curves is gear modeling. As such, I'm certain this would present them great difficulty when it comes to more beast-like player character races.

[Ayuhra]

SE chose to implement player character skeletons and skins along with gear models and meshes to maximize movement and minimize clipping, one thing that they are clear on, the reason for the disappearing curves is gear modeling. As such, I'm certain this would present them great difficulty when it comes to more beast-like player character races.

Well I'll give them this much: The clipping issues certainly exist in this game but they're much less severe than World of "My everything clips through my shield" Warcraft which does use anchor points. If beast shapes are a problem then I can settle for a human body type, I just want to see beastly heads and tails. It might make some helmets not work on some races but I can live with that.

And I need to stress that I actually really like the current playable races! More variety in a MMO is just always nice.

[Roegadyn_Bear]

Maybe I am sheltered or ignorant but in my decade of playing WoW most people I know who favor beast races do so because they're something different. Furries are no doubt a thing but enjoying a beast race because it's cool and more visually interesting than human-like character X does not a furry make.

People seem to cry "Furry!" whenever anyone mentions beast races anywhere. (And even if someone IS a Furry goodness who cares? Let them keep on keeping on they're not hurting anyone)

Which is why I said...

Not everyone who plays a Pandaren, Tauren, or Worgen are part of that, of course...

Didn't mean to strike a nerve there, though.

[Ayuhra]

No, I know you said that I just get twitchy when people bring it up. I play beast races a lot because they're cool to me not because I think they're attractive but if people ARE attracted to 'em? That's fine.

What gets me is on the WoW forums and Internet in general whenever anyone asks for a playable beast race (The Arakkoa for example) everyone cries "Furry" as if that were an inherently bad thing to be and then the conversation just sinks and devolves from there. Every time.

It's like it's own version of Godwin's Law.

I'm not offended by it I'm just tired of it.

[Roegadyn_Bear]

No, I know you said that I just get twitchy when people bring it up. I play beast races a lot because they're cool to me not because I think they're attractive but if people ARE attracted to 'em? That's fine.

What gets me is on the WoW forums whenever anyone asks for a playable beast race (The Arakkoa for example) everyone cries "Furry" as if that were an inherently bad thing to be and then the conversation just sinks and devolves from there. Every time.

It's like it's on version of Godwin's Law.

I'm not offended by it I'm just tired of it.

Understandable.

I enjoy beast-like races as well, to be honest, without being part of that particular fandom so I know it's possible to like said races without being in it. Unfortunately, people tend to automatically lump you in with them for desiring to play anything but a human looking humanoid. It's worse in their forums because it's a larger cesspool than these forums.

I played mostly Pandaren (when they were released) and you'd be surprised how many people, both of the fandom and not, lumped me in with it.

[Nektulos-Tuor]

Trying to find some good examples.. a lot of them have nudity! >_<

What of any of this pictures screams furry?