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  1. #171
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Quote Originally Posted by RhaegarFFXIFenrir View Post
    Saw this a couple min ago...

    update:

    Talked to the guy in question. Here's the conversation:



    Now I don't want to say that ALL crafters charge 100k per meld. That most certainly isn't the case. Still, 100k seems quite a bit excessive. Some people do feel the need to pay so much for melds because a number like that is sure to not be ignored. This shouldn't have to happen at all.
    You should ask why he felt he needed to offer 100k for the service.

    For all we know he did it because he wanted to get an exceedingly fast bite with an exepctioanlly high tip and doesn't really care about Gil either.

    Hard to say what his reasoning is without further details.
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  2. #172
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    You people are really pushing hard to remove a minor inconvenience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    You people are really pushing hard to remove a minor inconvenience.
    Conversely, "you people" are really pushing hard to keep a minor inconvenience.
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  4. #174
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurie View Post
    Conversely, "you people" are really pushing hard to keep a minor inconvenience.
    I'm not pushing to keep it but I also don't think it something that really needed for the devs to take time to change.
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  5. #175
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    I'm not pushing to keep it but I also don't think it something that really needed for the devs to take time to change.
    Considering I can get to the very last step of the process, but the button is simply grayed out, I can't imagine it's a lot of effort to change. As is you don't even need to have the class equipped to perform the meld, I imagine it's only making a check to see if the class is level 60 and nothing else. That's usually incredibly simple to change.
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  6. #176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghishlain View Post
    Hard to say what his reasoning is without further details.
    And I don't deny that. I can't say that the crafter that did the meld accepted that high tip either. Regardless, this is still an apt microcosm of the macrocosm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    You people are really pushing hard to remove a minor inconvenience.
    "pushing" and getting the issue seen is the only way things get changed around here. If you see something you want to have changed and don't say anything then don't be surprised if change never comes.
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  7. #177
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    Dante Venarra
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    Simple solution to this is make self melding available with alexandrite (just like the relic was melded) and have the alexandrite able to be bought with X number of poetics or esos. Same rules apply as relic. Breaking materia doesn't break the alexandrite.

    Crafters can craft and sell the alexandrite. Best of both worlds much like glamour prisms. If you are acrafter you can make them, if you are not you buy them from a crafter.

    I do not think you should be able to just meld something without some type of prerequisite catalyst (alex) or qualifier (crafting level).
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  8. #178
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    Delmontyb's Avatar
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altijacek View Post
    It's a decent idea, but I think if you don't craft you can't be suggesting it. It's fairly easy to level crafters and if you don't want to then this is a decent way to get crafters going. It's a small tip people require. And if you don't want to pay then that's on you, OR find a friend to do it free. Most people just charge 1-10k tips, it's nothing
    I enjoy crafting in the game, but the idea of "you don't craft so you can't suggest this idea" is at it's root a bad argument to make, and someone could then just turn around and argue the opposite, and we would get no-where. :S

    I hope people will see this request for what it is, not a cry to be anti-social, but rather a needed QOL improvement that benefits a vast majority of players.

    This system should be fun, but currently the process is anything but fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dante_V View Post
    Crafters can craft and sell the alexandrite. Best of both worlds much like glamour prisms. If you are acrafter you can make them, if you are not you buy them from a crafter.

    I do not think you should be able to just meld something without some type of prerequisite catalyst (alex) or qualifier (crafting level).
    You know this is the first post I've read in this thread that actually offers a suitable idea instead of just wanting or not wanting it.

    As you said you shouldn't be allowed to just meld without either meeting the level or some other requirement.

    You're method not only makes it that the crafters can either make money or still help friends and those people that don't wish to interact with others can grind out an alexandrite (or however many they decide to cost) to meld themselves.

    It also gives a use to esoterics for those that don't gear many classes as well as making poetics useful instead of completely useless like they are now.

    I'd be all for this idea.
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  10. #180
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    Brin Zalazar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexia View Post
    You people are really pushing hard to remove a minor inconvenience.
    It's feedback that we want to provide.

    I can understand peoples adversity to change, but here we can tell the developers our feedback to various systems, and provide feedback on other ideas as they come up, so that the developers can make the best decision with their development time.

    From reading this thread, I think the argument breaks down into two categories:

    1. We should change this system to be more open to all players and remove this as an inconvenience.
    2. We shouldn't make this change because it's just a small inconvenience.

    The problem I have is I haven't seen a good reason not to make this change, and the arguments that it brings people together and makes the world social seem like a stretch, being that this isn't the pillar which all social interaction in this game is based, and if it was, we'd have bigger issues.
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