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  1. #121
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    Suirieko's Avatar
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    I dislike having to change jobs multiple times to repair my own hear. When I go and click Repair All at an NPC.
    (As you can tell I rarely repair my own gear at this point.)
    Oh freaking please. You have every crafts at level 50, you should be able to repair any gears, anytime and anywhere... even in raids and dungeons and in the middle of battle, and you should have no trouble keeping your gears repaired. You get an alert whenever your gears reaches 10% durability.

    You should have absolutely no trouble keeping your gears repaired.

    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    While some may feel leveling it was easy. For me it was tedious. But I forced myself to do it. Cause I wanted everything at 50.

    Now...I once my retainers and myself have gathered enough I plan to lvl them to 60. But like I said.
    For ME it's tedious. Therefore it's extremely low on my "to do" list.
    Exactly HOW are you leveling your crafts? Are you just making things over and over and over again?

    There's a WIDE variety of ways that would make leveling craft MUCH easier.

    One of the best method is Grand Company daily turn-ins. You only have to do it once a day, and if you make the item HQ, you can get double amount of EXP and Seals. Do this daily and you'll have every crafts at 60 in the long run.



    Quote Originally Posted by Defias View Post
    But you have to admit this game often complicates things that do not need to be complicated.
    Melding being one of them.
    Glamour Grades being another.
    Chocobo Racing/Breeding.
    Scrips.
    To name a few.
    Is it just me or do you have a beef against complicated matters? If things are simple, rewards and efforts wouldn't be worthwhile. And these matters aren't even hard.

    Melding: As a raider, it is acceptable to rely strictly on gears you get from raids. Therefore, you'll NEVER have to worry about overmelding. (Assuming SE doesn't make that a thing in the future). So you get guaranteed slots, and only have to worry about it doing it once, if you use the right materia. Of course if you decided to use crafted gears (like the Eikon gears) for raiding, that's another matter....

    As crafters and gatherers, we're expected to overmeld every single slots to get the most bang of our abilities, it can be very costly, as we lose the materia and catalyst for every fails. Gigantic pain in the ass, but the reward for it is worthwhile, and very helpful.

    Glamour Grades: How is THAT a complicated matter? Having every crafts at level 50 should be making this easy for you. Hell Heavensward made this even easier, now that every dungeons in 3.0 drops clear glamour prisms. The materials required to make useable prisms aren't even hard to get, and some can even be purchased by NPC (for example, for weaver glamour prism, you can buy undyed velveteen from Sylvans' vendor)

    Chocobo Racing/Breeding: Strictly optional, so of course it'll be complicated. I haven't even fully figured out the breeding, mainly because I can't be arsed to, but I've tried the racing and it is fun. I found that if you play the cards right and have a good chocobo, you'll be able to take in a LOT of MGP.

    Scrips: If DoW/DoM have tomestones from dungeons, trials, etc, then Crafters/gatherers have scrips, so it's not meant to be easy, especially not the red scrips. However, for crafters, it's just the same as focusing on HQing the item, except you don't need to be 100% Gatherers, however, took me a bit to learn since it required doing various rotations to get the collectibility rating we need to turn in. That is a pain in the ass, but I never expected it to be easy.

    Things get complicated for a reason.

    Be glad this isn't like FFXI, especially in pre-Abyssea days, where the game was a great deal more challenging than ever.
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


  2. #122
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    RhaegarFFXIFenrir's Avatar
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    Asagiri Shirogane
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnugglesD View Post
    I haven't seen a single crafter demand a tip. Not one. I know I personally have done melds for tons of people for free as have the other crafters on my FC. I'm calling BS here. Making things up to support your argument actually does the opposite.
    And how would you know what I have or have not seen? Have you hacked into my computer and are watching everything on my screen as it happens? I wouldn't think to call your experiences a lie, so don't you dare call my experiences a lie either. Your baseless arguments have no merit and YOU are BS. You have no way to refute my argument so you scream "he's a liar he's a liar." This isn't 2nd grade.
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  3. #123
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    Grant Highwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by drmambo1999 View Post
    never mind my original post. :P I found a guide that explained everything I was wondering RIGHT after I posted it. XD (Always happens) Anyway I do agree with this. It is a minor inconvenience, but one that shouldn't be a thing anymore with the new end game gear.
    Do you have a link for this guide?
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  4. #124
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    I've watched both of these threads with interest as I find it interesting how more and more people just want to Solo a Multiplayer game. There is tons of people out there that will happily do it for free and you never know, you might make a good friend out of it as I know I have. I'll be really unhappy if they take this away from crafters who have put effort to level them up and gear them out. Be Social people, it's not that hard really O.O
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  5. #125
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    Sida Bajihri
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    A small thing about some points in this thread. That is about crafter expecting a tip for the meld. Some say they meld free but welcome tip if it's offered and I guess that's the usual. But what caught my attention was defending the not giving tip with "its just one button press" and how it should be free because they really don't do anything. If it was so darn easy, why don't you make that "just one button press" yourself then? If you can't, could it maybe be because you didn't put your time and effort to level the craft? Go level the craft and see how you feel of people who expect that "the one button press" is doing nothing. It's one act but behind it is all the time spent to be able to do so.

    It's one and the same if people tip or not but do not defend the lack of it by belittling the effort to level crafts.
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    Last edited by Sida; 03-01-2016 at 10:14 PM.

  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    It's one act but behind it is all the time spent to be able to do so.
    And thus we solved the mystery of underperforming players in dungeons!

    It's not that these people "cannot" do more than autoattack or cure 1. They simply expect a tip for using the abilities they gained from leveling a combat class to 60.

    It all makes sense now.
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  7. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    And thus we solved the mystery of underperforming players in dungeons.
    People are lazy, nothing new here.

    Also to the people who claim crafters are asking tips for melds....if its just one or two melds don't pay them? find someone else? like there are most likely thousands of crafters in your server that could and would do it for free...
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  8. #128
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    Violet Baudelaire
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evangela View Post
    It never made sense. Cloud and other FFVII characters never needed a specialist to put some balls in the holes.
    However, a specialist WAS required for similar functions in FF10.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    And thus we solved the mystery of underperforming players in dungeons!

    It's not that these people "cannot" do more than autoattack or cure 1. They simply expect a tip for using the abilities they gained from leveling a combat class to 60.

    It all makes sense now.
    The person in your analogy which you try to portray as a crafter, who refuses to perform in reasonable way, ie wants a free carry is the same one who wants a free meld without bothering to craft. They both want to get a benefit off a content they can't be bothered to participate in. Unless the melds are going to people they play with, ie static/FC mates, crafters don't benefit from it any way so don't try to say it's their duty to benefit others with it.
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    Last edited by Sida; 03-01-2016 at 11:45 PM.
    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    The person in your analogy which you try to portray as a crafter, who refuses to perform in reasonable way, ie wants a free carry is the same one who wants a free meld without bothering to craft. They both want to get a benefit off a content they can't be bothered to participate in. Unless the melds are going to people they play with, ie static/FC mates, crafters don't benefit from it any way so don't try to say it's their duty to benefit others with it.
    using the logic they used you could replace meld with anything a crafter can do.

    Crafting new specialist recipes? How dare you want a tip for using abilities that you gained from levelling to 60!

    It would be like me going into a dungeon claiming im a crafter and therefore do not wish to contribute and then expect them to be ok with it.
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