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  1. #131
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    Seconded on the NPC idea, though I'm in the camp of having the NPC charge a fee that's slightly uncomfortable (like 10K per meld or so) so that there's still a reason to have players do it. This feels very similar to the adjustment they made to have the NPC sell some of the crafting mats that were on timed gathering nodes - I can get an unlimited supply of them easily now, but they're expensive enough that I'd still rather actually gather them.

    I would also be in support of easing the level requirements to something closer to the repair level. It's especially jarring when you can easily make a HQ crafted item that's rated at one level higher than your current level and then can't meld to it.
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  2. #132
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    Areku Foxfire
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateCat View Post
    I would also be in support of easing the level requirements to something closer to the repair level. It's especially jarring when you can easily make a HQ crafted item that's rated at one level higher than your current level and then can't meld to it.
    I'd be okay if the meld level was the same as the repair level. I had such annoyances with this when I was leveling my crafters.
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  3. #133
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    The irony of this whole tread is you are likely going to have people camping out next to the gear distributors just to perform the melds for achievements, mainly on reset days, npc or player who cares.
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  4. #134
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    Val'faria Rhiki
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    sorry if this was already said, but if you're not into crafting but want to have them leveled up anyway for materia melding, go to the MB, look into the Agenda for daily GC-Turn-ins, buy the stuff, turn it in, get EXP -> profit.
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  5. #135
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    I highly doubt SE is going to change it. However I do believe they might add an NPC that can meld materia at a reasonable price.

    There are some people who dont like crafting. There are some that dont like raiding. However it is an MMO and I think SE expects you to interact with other players.
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  6. #136
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    What would be a reasonable price both for the lazy folks and crafters tho?

    I wonder how many people would actually visit the NPC if it asked 200k for a grade V materia meld - which seems reasonable enough based on the prices of other items.
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  7. #137
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser-Ace View Post
    To all the players saying "just level a crafter" I hope in 3.4 an item for high level BiS crafting gear exclusively drops from Alexander's Final Savage Mode and is unobtainable by other means.

    Then for once you master Crafters will be entirely dependent on Raiders and know how it feels.

    Oh but you'd riot then wouldn't you?
    ... I still don't get where people get the idea that crafters hate PvE, but that wouldn't bother me, really, considering I do craft, and PvE.. and PVP...

    The point of this games is for players to work with each other. Fighters should depend on crafters, and crafters should depend on fighters.
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


  8. #138
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    Florence Leduc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    What would be a reasonable price both for the lazy folks and crafters tho?

    I wonder how many people would actually visit the NPC if it asked 200k for a grade V materia meld - which seems reasonable enough based on the prices of other items.
    how is that reasonable? if you bring all the stuff for meld the price must be extremely low, you already did all the jobs. that why people say that melding must'nt be crafter stuff, because actually the hard part is to get the dark matter and the materia. worst the crafter gears don't even affect the success rate.
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  9. #139
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archaell View Post
    What would be a reasonable price both for the lazy folks and crafters tho?

    I wonder how many people would actually visit the NPC if it asked 200k for a grade V materia meld - which seems reasonable enough based on the prices of other items.
    200K is way too high, and here I was thinking a fee rate would be based on the materia tier:

    100 for tier I, 500 for tier II, 1000 for tier III, 5000 for tier IV, 10,000 for tier V

    Obviously the NPC wouldn't be able to overmeld.

    That way, crafters will still be depended on and there is an advantage. much like crafters being able to repair anywhere, anytime, and can repair their stuff up to 200%, instead of 100%.
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    Suirieko Mizukoshi of Excalibur Lamia


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    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    how is that reasonable? if you bring all the stuff for meld the price must be extremely low, you already did all the jobs. that why people say that melding must'nt be crafter stuff, because actually the hard part is to get the dark matter and the materia. worst the crafter gears don't even affect the success rate.
    When the HW HQ leveling gear goes for 100k+, 200k for the endgame melds seems reasonable enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Suirieko View Post
    200K is way too high, and here I was thinking a fee rate would be based on the materia tier:

    100 for tier I, 500 for tier II, 1000 for tier III, 5000 for tier IV, 10,000 for tier V

    Obviously the NPC wouldn't be able to overmeld.

    That way, crafters will still be depended on and there is an advantage. much like crafters being able to repair anywhere, anytime, and can repair their stuff up to 200%, instead of 100%.
    If the gear can't be overmelded what is the point of overmelding?

    Your prices are way too low. That way nobody would need a crafter for the melds ever, because earning the gil would take as much time as looking for a crafter.

    The NPC could be an option, but it shouldn't be more effective than the crafters.
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