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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Its not?

    what's that in between Defense and Magic Defense there then?
    Except those stats do something, Parry is about 2% as effective as those stats.

    Now, I am not saying there shouldn't be a "tank stat" but I think it should you know, "do something." that isn't nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Except those stats do something, Parry is about 2% as effective as those stats.
    Parry does a better job at being a stat than your posts do at offering anything to these forums.

    Seriously, you don't even participate in content where secondary stats make a difference, in fact you've proudly declared as much on these forums in the past (with quite the condescending attitude towards those of us who do, I might add).
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    Last edited by Syzygian; 03-01-2016 at 03:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Parry does a better job at being a stat than your posts do at offering anything to these forums.

    Seriously, you don't even participate in content where secondary stats make a difference, in fact you've proudly declared as much on these forums in the past (with quite the condescending attitude towards those of us who do, I might add).
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
    That's debatable. Your arguments are usually so full of holes that you could drive a herd of cattle through them.

    Your posts cause more facepalming than parry does for sure, though.
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    So... I've been looking through Parry-related posts as I was wondering how it actually affected things.

    All I see on here is "it's useless/useful due to [insert theorycraft/opinion/story here]"

    I've seen all kinds of analysis and numbers regarding other stats but absolutely nothing about Parry beyond what people seem to be making up. And this isn't just here.

    So, question to the assembled: has anyone actually figured out the numbers behind Parry since the 3.0 changes? Without anything resembling those we're all just guessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fytayn View Post
    So... I've been looking through Parry-related posts as I was wondering how it actually affected things.

    All I see on here is "it's useless/useful due to [insert theorycraft/opinion/story here]"

    I've seen all kinds of analysis and numbers regarding other stats but absolutely nothing about Parry beyond what people seem to be making up. And this isn't just here.

    So, question to the assembled: has anyone actually figured out the numbers behind Parry since the 3.0 changes? Without anything resembling those we're all just guessing.
    There was a thread of some people trying to do objective research on scaling. iirc it does not scale the same as it did pre-3.0. But people hate/don't care about the stat so much that a lot less effort was put into math behind it this time around. I believe the same thread also suggested, based on testing, that WAR and DRK have higher base parry rates than PLD does, DRK even more so, (probably to balance with Wrath stacks having Parry). The big take-home from that was that PLD having a Shield was shaping up to not actually make much of a difference in passive mitigation between the other two tanks, as the tests suggested they had innately higher parry rates to compensate.
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    Last edited by Syzygian; 03-07-2016 at 06:26 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashkendor View Post
    That's debatable. Your arguments are usually so full of holes that you could drive a herd of cattle through them.

    Your posts cause more facepalming than parry does for sure, though.
    I don't know, parry is full of holes itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
    This thread is now true, parry is removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Parry does a better job at being a stat than your posts do at offering anything to these forums.
    BRUH



    Why are these threads a thing again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Except those stats do something, Parry is about 2% as effective as those stats.

    Now, I am not saying there shouldn't be a "tank stat" but I think it should you know, "do something." that isn't nothing.
    I'll say this:

    While I HAVEN'T been Parry-focused, I DO like when I'm pulling a dungeon and I'm seeing "Parried" floating on my screen often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
    Hahahahahah... I had to hit LIKE on this. I actually laughed out loud at my desk...lol...

    *EDIT*
    Had to quote it in my signature.
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