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    Renewed Request - Please Delete Parry from the game

    OK. I'm fine with the 3.2 tank changes. But you know the thing I absolutely hate about 3.2? That now, because we want VIT instead of STR, we are pressured to wear terribly designed fending gear that has loads of parry on it. I hate parry, I find it an annoying an unnecessary stat, and I wish it were just GONE. I don't even want it to be fixed. I want it to just be taken out back, shot in the head, and it's body dumped in the river. Then just write some algorithm to revert all instances of parry on gear into appropriate crit, acc, ss, or det.

    I'm OK having to stack a certain amount of ACC, that's fine- but couple ACC caps with worthless parry stats and you just have no cohesive way of stacking stats to your benefit. I feel like my gear is a hodge-podge of incoherent stats, with no way for me to hit acc cap (without blowing over it), while still maintaining 9hit Berserk in SS, and a decent amount of det and crit.

    Please SE, I'm begging you. JUST GET RID OF PARRY. PLEASE.
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    Like, I get it, Parry is unreliable, doesn't contribute to DPS, etc...

    But why the seething, vicious, homicidal hatred? its just a stat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Like, I get it, Parry is unreliable, doesn't contribute to DPS, etc...

    But why the seething, vicious, homicidal hatred? its just a stat.
    Because the people who make items put it on everything like it "is" a real stat, when its not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Because the people who make items put it on everything like it "is" a real stat, when its not.
    Its not?

    what's that in between Defense and Magic Defense there then?

    Also there's this: http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SWKF I dunno about the other tanks, but an i240+ set with 0 parry is possible on DRK if that's your thing. If you don't like Parry, don't wear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Its not?

    what's that in between Defense and Magic Defense there then?
    Except those stats do something, Parry is about 2% as effective as those stats.

    Now, I am not saying there shouldn't be a "tank stat" but I think it should you know, "do something." that isn't nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Except those stats do something, Parry is about 2% as effective as those stats.
    Parry does a better job at being a stat than your posts do at offering anything to these forums.

    Seriously, you don't even participate in content where secondary stats make a difference, in fact you've proudly declared as much on these forums in the past (with quite the condescending attitude towards those of us who do, I might add).
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    Last edited by Syzygian; 03-01-2016 at 03:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Except those stats do something, Parry is about 2% as effective as those stats.

    Now, I am not saying there shouldn't be a "tank stat" but I think it should you know, "do something." that isn't nothing.
    I'll say this:

    While I HAVEN'T been Parry-focused, I DO like when I'm pulling a dungeon and I'm seeing "Parried" floating on my screen often.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
    Hahahahahah... I had to hit LIKE on this. I actually laughed out loud at my desk...lol...

    *EDIT*
    Had to quote it in my signature.
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    Last edited by Jim_Berry; 04-11-2016 at 06:54 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    My post reduces more damage then parry does.
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    Hi! Resident crazy parry advocate here!

    Parry is the only secondary stat that tanks have that directly impacts their "tankiness." It's not in a very good place right now, so I will admit and agree that it needs adjusting, but by no means does that mean it should be removed from the game. I think everyone agrees that we want Parry (or some kind of replacement) to become a more meaningful stat to mitigation. We all want to see it become more than it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Because the people who make items put it on everything like it "is" a real stat, when its not.
    For a moment, I thought this was your thread. Not gonna lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Like, I get it, Parry is unreliable, doesn't contribute to DPS, etc...

    But why the seething, vicious, homicidal hatred? its just a stat.
    *deep breath* BECAUSE I'M A SEETHING, VICIOUS, HOMICIDAL MANIAC. WHY IN IFRIT'S FLAMING TAINT DO YOU THINK I PLAY WARRIOR???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janyxea View Post
    *deep breath* BECAUSE I'M A SEETHING, VICIOUS, HOMICIDAL MANIAC. WHY IN IFRIT'S FLAMING TAINT DO YOU THINK I PLAY WARRIOR???
    Because you couldn't manage MP and PLD is boring? ;D

    Joshing aside, I know plenty of seething, vicious, homicidal DRKs/PLDs and plenty of quiet, bookish WARs. Good players too. They roll on gear that is an upgrade regardless of if it is Parry and worry about BiS later.

    Progression BiS is a myth. BiS is bragging rights after the fact. You beat everything that matters and now you have the best gear and nothing to really use it on.

    Which is why I don't understand the rage of folks over Parry. Like that 54 Parry on your belt is really gonna be the difference between a clear and a wipe.
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