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  1. #21
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    Jpec07's Avatar
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Hi! Resident crazy parry advocate here!

    Parry is the only secondary stat that tanks have that directly impacts their "tankiness." It's not in a very good place right now, so I will admit and agree that it needs adjusting, but by no means does that mean it should be removed from the game. I think everyone agrees that we want Parry (or some kind of replacement) to become a more meaningful stat to mitigation. We all want to see it become more than it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nektulos-Tuor View Post
    Because the people who make items put it on everything like it "is" a real stat, when its not.
    For a moment, I thought this was your thread. Not gonna lie.
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    Kallera's Avatar
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    Etoile Kallera
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    Mateus
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    I'm consieering using something other than vit for whatever melds I do, like wondering how skill speed might play out with my fighting). however, imo, parry should be better than the deceptive noob trap it is.
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  3. #23
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    Janyxea Snow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syzygian View Post
    Like, I get it, Parry is unreliable, doesn't contribute to DPS, etc...

    But why the seething, vicious, homicidal hatred? its just a stat.
    *deep breath* BECAUSE I'M A SEETHING, VICIOUS, HOMICIDAL MANIAC. WHY IN IFRIT'S FLAMING TAINT DO YOU THINK I PLAY WARRIOR???
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    Syzygia Coahcuhhar
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Janyxea View Post
    *deep breath* BECAUSE I'M A SEETHING, VICIOUS, HOMICIDAL MANIAC. WHY IN IFRIT'S FLAMING TAINT DO YOU THINK I PLAY WARRIOR???
    Because you couldn't manage MP and PLD is boring? ;D

    Joshing aside, I know plenty of seething, vicious, homicidal DRKs/PLDs and plenty of quiet, bookish WARs. Good players too. They roll on gear that is an upgrade regardless of if it is Parry and worry about BiS later.

    Progression BiS is a myth. BiS is bragging rights after the fact. You beat everything that matters and now you have the best gear and nothing to really use it on.

    Which is why I don't understand the rage of folks over Parry. Like that 54 Parry on your belt is really gonna be the difference between a clear and a wipe.
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  5. #25
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    Xyasreau Borlaaq
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    Tonberry
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Honestly "limiting of choice" is not even an argument considering there is generally only 2 options to begin with. BiS or not BiS. And sometimes.. You guessed it.. Parry is on that BiS.

    While we're at it we should remove accuracy as well as it literally does nothing after an arbitrary requirement.

    It's not like we should even be comparing gears in the first place since we wear different sets altogether. Boohoo casting has det and crit. /shrug
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    Aiot O'lein
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    At the very least I would like that Parry on PLD would directly translate into Block...
    Its pretty annoying that one uses Sheltron, and the next 10 seconds worth of autoattacks get all parried, so no Shield Swipe proc :/

    Also, would be cool to have a "Parry Stance" in which neither GCDs nor Auto-Attacks or moving at all can go, but naturally reduces incoming damage, stackable with other DEF cooldowns and the more Parry you have, the longer it can last on, and endure.

    (of course many will scream Shield Oath, Defiance and Grit :v)
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    Colette Pascal
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    I would just like to point out that Elemental Materia and their associated resistance stats still exist. Don't hold your breath for them to remove a stat.
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    Eonkhui Malaguld
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    Quote Originally Posted by giantslayer View Post
    I would just like to point out that Elemental Materia and their associated resistance stats still exist. Don't hold your breath for them to remove a stat.
    Useful in 2.xx for primal progression wait for them to make it back in a big way.
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  9. #29
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    Matthias Gendrin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Useful in 2.xx for primal progression wait for them to make it back in a big way.
    You could also conceivably stack them for Bismarck and Ravana, though I'm not sure how much elemental-aspected damage there is to those fights (never tried using elem. resist stuff).
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    Fyce Alvey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violette View Post
    Useful in 2.xx for primal progression wait for them to make it back in a big way.
    These materias already have a very important purpose.

    They make Mutamix happy when he sees you coming with your pockets full of them.
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    Last edited by Fyce; 03-02-2016 at 10:23 AM.

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