[spoilers]3.2 MSQ Discussion/Reaction thread

[Belhi]

I think the Archons are all off doing their things. Thancred is pretty obvious. I'm actually more interested in what Y'shtola and Krile are up to.

At least we have back all the second teir Scions in the Falling Stones now.

[CyrilLucifer]

Yeah, I don't know where they are. Y'shtola isn't in Idyllshire anymore, and Thancred/Krile aren't in the Stones. Maybe they're somewhere strange, like Dragonhead or Fortemps manor?

[Kallera]

Yeah, I don't know where they are. Y'shtola isn't in Idyllshire anymore, and Thancred/Krile aren't in the Stones. Maybe they're somewhere strange, like Dragonhead or Fortemps manor?

I'll take a look around. Seems like we all have our own ideas, depending on what we value most, as to how Heavensward should play out, anyway.

[Morningstar1337]

Yeah, I don't know where they are. Y'shtola isn't in Idyllshire anymore, and Thancred/Krile aren't in the Stones. Maybe they're somewhere strange, like Dragonhead or Fortemps manor?

Did you check Matoya's cave?

[CyrilLucifer]

Did you check Matoya's cave?

Nope, as said below, they aren't there. This is really odd.

Edit: Also, I just want to say, these Vath quests are pretty cute. Gobbies calling them "Walkybugs" and whatnot.
Also: "Go and pick up the damn rocks." It seems our character is quite snarky when we're not angsting or swearing vengeance on someone.

[SecretCrowds]

Not yet, that's next. I'll edit and report results in a few.

They weren't there, last I checked.

[Frederick22]

in 3.1, i saw Y'shotla on the outskirts of Idyllshire. Try there?

I wouldnt asked if I was able to find them on the obious places, no?

First time we cannot find them. Interesting.

[Leviathonlx]

Agreed, although Yoshida has made some comments that make it seem like 4.0 will not be following on from 3.x, so I expect 3.4 onwards to just be concluding the current plot with the Ascians/Zodiark/Hydaelyn rather than pushing us towards some new area like 2.55 did.
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I'd take that to just mean ' it won't deal with dragons' as well.

[Ayuhra]

Serious response to this thread:

I really do believe something I think I said earlier which is that before the mother being split into what is now Hydaelyn and Zodiark it was a more complete and powerful entity. It may be for the good of the cosmos that this being is re-formed and in this the Ascians may not be entirely evil.

I do not get a "lol evil" vibe from, say Unukulhai (AKA Totally-Not-Elidibus) or Elidibus. He's mysterious and his methods are hideous from our perspective but he's also reasonable and just seems to have more far reaching agendas than anyone else. Urianger probably understands him.

Hm.

Much as Minfilia is now the Voice of the Mother might Elidibus be Voice of the Father? Zodiark is the moon so is this why he is in white?

After all in Final Fantasy Tactics Elidibus' most powerful spell is Summon Zodiark.

[CyrilLucifer]

Much as Minfilia is now the Voice of the Mother might Elidibus be Voice of the Father? Zodiark is the moon so is this why he is in white?

This has been one of my theories for Eli for a while, him being an avatar of Zodiark. After all, at the very least, he seems to hold some position above the others - but he does not seem to be one and the same being as Zodiark, as Minfilia does with Hydaelyn, so I don't think we can directly make the comparison.

Unukalhai, I believe, is a Lesser Ascian (I actually didn't know people were hypothesizing he was directly Elidibus until I saw people posting it here, hence why I'm usually typing totally-not-Elidibus-or-his-servant, of course, he very definitely shares Elidibus' goals and we can use him to try to figure out what Elidibus seeks, as the 12th Lessers did for Lahabrea). I'm super excited for Cutest-Ascian's story, though, because it might just segue into a slightly more sympathizable view of Ascians.