Thread: [spoilers]3.2 MSQ Discussion/Reaction thread

I think it's definitely likely that 3.1 had at least some content cut. I actually suspect that the original plan was to have a 'The Vault: (Hard)' instead of the short duty we got instead. I feel like the whole situation involving many Ishgardians still remaining loyal to the Archbishop was meant to be a grander affair. I suppose it's possible that it may be addressed in the next set of Scholasticate quests.

Niddy might be a trial fight. I think it would be quite underwhelming to have his fight be solable since you'd basically have to make it manageable for a solo fight and those are usually not impressive on a spectacle scale.

I just see that this might be a good small example but when the real battle begings with Garlemand and it will happen.

Do you know how much time had passed between the official pardon and the current 3.2 events?

Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh

Do you know how much time had passed between the official pardon and the current 3.2 events?

Undeterminned since we are probably still in a "time bubble" (IE its still been 5 years since the Calamity).

Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

It's hard to tell. I actually do get the feeling that more time is passing between events in 3.X than 2.X, though that may just be because of the narrative frame being more effective. 3.0 had a few time skips, which you tell via KI descriptions and we have an entire mural being made for 3.2; something that large isn't done in a week.

And within 3.2 itself, we have a grand melee. Something that large isn't prepared overnight, either, since it's a non-emergency political event with leaders present. Honestly, I'd give that at least a month, but this is fantasy, so we can shorten that to another week or two, I guess?

Personally I'd go with a couple months, four at max. A part of me still wants to think the 2.x series as a whole took a year.

Finished A8 last night! Some thoughts on that, and Sephirot's little sidestory.

On Midas
Time shenanigans! I can dig it! Then again, I really like the Alexander plot as a whole; sure, it lacks the sheer gravitas of Coil, but the threat is well-established even if the tone is more light-hearted.

That said, it's not without its plot holes. Like...what was the purpose of Mide's fake-out with the Codex piece? Obviously the Illuminati was going to figure it out eventually, and all it ended up doing was getting Roundrox captured. I have some other more specific questions related to the Alex plot, but I figured I'd find/make a separate thread for that.

On Sephirot
Always happy to see our friendly Imperial antagonists get some more limelight. I kind of wish we could have seen these thralls that were in stasis, to give us an idea of this Meracydian tree race, but oh well. The lyrics to the Phase 2 song are also quite a bit more intense than we're used to, which will certainly provide for some interesting dissection.

Some nice interactions with our little masked friend, too. I'm a bit curious as to why people are scrapping the Unulkalhai-as-Elidibus theory after this, though; I think it's about as likely as anything else, but I didn't catch anything that actively contradicted or disproved it. Maybe I just missed it though.

Also, thinking on a few other MSQ things:

I think I'd have been warmer towards the AntiTower if they had just asked Matoya about a potential solution to accessing the Aetherial Sea, and then she had revealed the existence of the Tower, instead of learning about it then going to Matoya and then her revealing it. I'm not 100% sure why, but I was really comfortable with that hypothetical, maybe because it was one coincidence rather than 2 or 3.

Also, I really think the dev team needs to start mentioning the major setpieces of its patches in the patch before, since the pace they've set for themselves doesn't allow for any buildup at all in the patch itself. Case in point: I actually have no problem with the timeframe of the peace conference/construction of the mural, but the Grand Melee, as much as I enjoyed doing it, required more suspension of disbelief. This is because the conference was part of 3.1's story, the mural goes hand-in-hand with it, and we had the time span between patches that we can infer Aymeric used to prepare for it. If the Grand Melee had been an idea that came up in 3.1, the preparations might not have seemed so one-and done. It would have also felt more natural to introduce the Grand Melee in this way; the issue of a divided, disillusioned populace did not come with the Bar Maiden's Speech, and while the Melee works well as a way of countering that, it might have made more sense for it to be something that was already happening rather than something hastily organized after the fact.