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  1. #41
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    Kuwagami's Avatar
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    snip.
    It's a rough estimate because you aren't fighting a dummy like you fight a real monster. Usually no pots, no food, skills used in an order you wouldn't normally or skills you can't use on a dummy but can in a fight due to downtime, aoe fights like AS2 which do not translate at all (as2 dummy as a SMN is a joke), etc etc.

    All you can say for sure is that your gear is sufficient, and that if you fail you have to work on your rotation to fit the pace of the fight
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    Shiroyasha Nekomata
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    Feels bad man, just attempted the Thordan Ex on my 203 Monk, failed with about 10-15% left, tried A4S and the same thing, failed with 10-15% left. Tried both on my 207 DRK and passed Thordan but failed A4S. Need more work to do.
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    Axel Darkhero
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    I fail to see the logic behind the Machinist dummies having less HP than the Bard ones...

    I thought that, even before their buffs, Machinists were stronger than Bards in a single target situation. And Machinists can buff their own DPS with hypercharge too... no fair! :'(
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  4. #44
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    Calypso Celeste
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    Maybe it's made with the assumption that reload and quick reload aren't used? Bards have much more consistent and reliable damage so it's likely they lowered the machinist dummy to account for things like that.
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  5. #45
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    Waliel Hla
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    Quote Originally Posted by LunarEmerald View Post
    It's not a rough estimate. It's pure math and is a more reliable number than what a parse will give you. Because parsers estimate dot damage.

    If a dummy has 200k HP and you kill it in 150 seconds then your dps is 1333. That's not an estimate, it is factual. You just can't be super precise since we don't have tenths of a second.
    So a random site using math is somehow more accurate than a parser that uses math? Got it.

    Parsers have been very accurate for a long time. I did BLM A5S in i210 and completed it in roughly 2:55. Using that site puts me at 1558.86 while my parser gave me 1557.17. I'd call a 0.1% difference to your factual math pretty precise.
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post


    here are the dps needed for the dps jobs on all dummies
    Is there a non dps version of this chart? Mainly interested in tank numbers. I beat A4S and Seph Ex just fine (war) but no idea how much HP i was whacking at.
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  7. #47
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    Pandora Heinstein
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vurtney View Post
    Is there a non dps version of this chart? Mainly interested in tank numbers. I beat A4S and Seph Ex just fine (war) but no idea how much HP i was whacking at.
    The WAR version of the A4S / SephEX dummy has 160k HP. You can find it on the reddit SSS thread, which is always on the front page. i dont know if its ok to link it here.

    In 180s that makes 888 dps.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultear_Milkovich View Post
    The WAR version of the A4S / SephEX dummy has 160k HP. You can find it on the reddit SSS thread, which is always on the front page. i dont know if its ok to link it here.

    In 180s that makes 888 dps.
    I'll check it out, cheers.
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  9. #49
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    Kuwagami Tarynke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vurtney View Post
    Is there a non dps version of this chart? Mainly interested in tank numbers. I beat A4S and Seph Ex just fine (war) but no idea how much HP i was whacking at.
    there is this one, but I don't know who made it. Pretty well made though
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuwagami View Post
    there is this one, but I don't know who made it. Pretty well made though
    I also found this, an actual calculator.

    http://ffxiv.2digitalgames.de/
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    Last edited by Vurtney; 02-27-2016 at 12:54 AM.

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