I failed on my first attempt on the new striking dummy

[Ultear_Milkovich]

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I think they made SSS with a pure dps perspective, like "your rotation/gear must enable you to push 900 dps as tank in pure dps mode for this trial, then in the real fight you will probably be able to try to do 750 dps due to tanking etc".

Dps too would never be able to have the same figures on dummy than on real conditions but a 1500 dps has at least the proper rotation/gear to try and get 1200 dps in fight while dodging. Of course he can suck at sustaining his rotation in real conditions but at least he would have the technical potential.

Healers will have to... heal in real fights so this dps check is only here to tell them if their dps stance spells are valid enough to worth using

That said you could try to starts the dummy fight with a DA/PS combo under grit and pots to have something closer to real conditions but you will still miss bloodprice and reprisal compared to a real fight. The dps check in this case will be MUCH harder.

[CBellz]

Healers will have to... heal in real fights so this dps check is only here to tell them if their dps stance spells are valid enough to worth using.

I interpret the healing dummy as more of a way to see if you can contribute decent DPS when there aren't any huge damage spikes going out. I realize that it was difficult for SE to really simulate a trial for healers on a per fight basis, since there are damage spikes a WHM can heal through alone and some dmg spikes where both healers need to contribute.

[Dyvid]

i dont get it.

as a nin, sss is perfect, being able to fine tune the dps so that you are clearing it.

but as a tank class such as pld or drk, i can beat the dummy with a minute to spare out of grit and going dps, but it doesn't go over the threats which will require me to be in grit, moving the mob, or other such mechanics that would slow my dps.

in short, dps and tanking objectives aren't meshing as well. how can i use this better as drk?

Honestly SSS is mainly designed for dps and having the ability for visual feedback if they are damage dealing effectively. DPS checks are the hardest to gauge individually without 3rd party programs were as healing and tanking give you instant feedback in the fight.

[gddanimations]

I got it down to 8% before my time expired. So the game told me I failed the objective. I told the game in vulgar terms to commit maternal incest and canine bestiality.

Not really, but it did serve as a wake up call that my BLM rotation could use some work.

Don't feel so bad, although don't do Raids currently I have always wanted to. I tried 8 times last night and fell short at 5% or less each time. I am currently trying to work out where in my rotation I have gone so terribly wrong.

[Culfinrandir]

Any idea on whether there are accuracy caps on the training dummy's. That would be a pretty sweet addition if not.

Not sure as I've not done it yet but I know it's possible to miss on the standard lvl60 Clan Seals Dummy with low accuracy as a WHM. I missed with Fluid Aura just the other day. It would be strange if they didn't carry that over to a degree.

[FoxyAreku]

Did this as a scholar and beat Sephirot EX with 1 second left. My dots were up the whole time so maybe I need a better weapon haha.

I also didn't notice any misses the whole time so I don't think you can miss on these.

[Dyvid]

Don't feel so bad, although don't do Raids currently I have always wanted to. I tried 8 times last night and fell short at 5% or less each time. I am currently trying to work out where in my rotation I have gone so terribly wrong.

Might just need a slight upgrade of your gear would push you past it.

[OmegaStrongtan]

I killed the A4S dummy with a few seconds left. Not sure if this is good or bad since with ilvl 209 I should actually be facerolling that thing...

[LunarEmerald]

Gotta give credit where it's due. The one you have to thank is xephero who took the time to test all dummies with all the dps jobs.

Llillymoo also provided all dps values for all jobs for AS4-8 and sephirot Ex

Raema Deon from Shiva also created a site that works on mobile to calculate a rough estimate of your dps. console players now have their solo ACT on dummies \o/

It's not a rough estimate. It's pure math and is a more reliable number than what a parse will give you. Because parsers estimate dot damage.

If a dummy has 200k HP and you kill it in 150 seconds then your dps is 1333. That's not an estimate, it is factual. You just can't be super precise since we don't have tenths of a second.

[XiXiQ]

I have never had access to a parser, but I wonder if now people are looking at their accuracy and how close the 3rd party stuff gets. As above, with known HP it's a simple as HP divided by the amount of seconds to destroy.

I'm in an usual spot at the moment, due to a undersea cable breakdown I'll be stuck with pings around 250 for the next few weeks. I've heard theories latency affect dps, and this will be a good test. Over the weeks I'll keep a note of dps and latency recorded. Will be interesting to see any difference when the pings go back to 100. Just taking as an example the parse I did yesterday, which came up at 1280 for blm, if the difference really is 5% as has been postulated, I should see that change to around 1340 all else equal. Would hate to think the gap would be any worse than that, but we'll see.